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Ah what is appropriate? Letting them take over entire city blocks as Seattle has done? Allowing mobs to burn down minority neighborhoods in Minneapolis?

rabidrat 6y ago
I live basically in the CHAZ in Seattle, they haven't taken over anything. The police just abandoned the precinct building and left it unlocked and people are gathering peacefully to listen to other people speak. It's like a street festival or a farmer's market but with an explicit aim of stopping police from killing black people.
- chrisco255 6y ago
  Ah what's the end game? They were forced by leadership to abandon the area. That wasn't their choice to abandon their post. What are your thoughts on the 300+ black people murdered in Chicago so far in the past year by gang violence? You think that a CHAZ in Chicago would help those lives? You think defunding the police would lead to less or more deaths there overall?
  - kenjackson 6y ago
    Police sure haven’t helped. Defunding and funding other areas probably helps reduce the murder rate.
TeaDrunk 6y ago
The police abandoned the city blocks first. The intent was to purposefully set up a situation where cops can point to rioting in an area they intentionally vacated so riots could happen. Protestors have responded by sitting and watching documentaries about police brutality in that area.
- pnako 6y ago
  Maybe this can set an example for the rest of the nation, then. There have been calls to abolish the police. If Seattle can do it, maybe Atlanta and Minneapolis too. I think that's the right answer: this should be a local decision and each community should decide the level of policing it wants (including none at all).
ncallaway 6y ago
I downvoted you because I live in a Seattle, and this question shows a ignorance of the facts: “Letting them take over entire city blocks as Seattle has done?”
- brigandish 6y ago
  A bare assertion followed by a bare refusal isn't much help. If you would instead provide some information, that would be a big help to all those of us who do not live in Seattle.
  - chillwaves 6y ago
    If the statement is not factual, what else is there to say? All I know is Fox News has been caught photoshopping images and lying during their news broadcasts about these incidents.
    - brigandish 6y ago
      > If the statement is not factual, what else is there to say? What is actually occurring, as I requested. It was a hint that the reply at least wasn't up to the standard of HN.
    - chrisco255 6y ago
      They've taken over blocks, blocking traffic, stopping the flow of people and businesses into that area, they've disregarded state and local laws, etc. It's completely factual. Whatever Fox News has been doing to drum up hits on their website is completely irrelevant.
  - exogen 6y ago
    This is a very accurate take that leads with some context before getting to the current situation: https://nostalgebraist.tumblr.com/post/620713736158724096/hey-to-clarify-with-your-post-about-the-autonomous https://nostalgebraist.tumblr.com/post/620713736158724096/he...
    - 6y ago

rabidrat 6y ago

I live basically in the CHAZ in Seattle, they haven't taken over anything. The police just abandoned the precinct building and left it unlocked and people are gathering peacefully to listen to other people speak. It's like a street festival or a farmer's market but with an explicit aim of stopping police from killing black people.

chrisco255 6y ago
Ah what's the end game? They were forced by leadership to abandon the area. That wasn't their choice to abandon their post. What are your thoughts on the 300+ black people murdered in Chicago so far in the past year by gang violence? You think that a CHAZ in Chicago would help those lives? You think defunding the police would lead to less or more deaths there overall?
- kenjackson 6y ago
  Police sure haven’t helped. Defunding and funding other areas probably helps reduce the murder rate.

TeaDrunk 6y ago

The police abandoned the city blocks first. The intent was to purposefully set up a situation where cops can point to rioting in an area they intentionally vacated so riots could happen. Protestors have responded by sitting and watching documentaries about police brutality in that area.

pnako 6y ago
Maybe this can set an example for the rest of the nation, then. There have been calls to abolish the police. If Seattle can do it, maybe Atlanta and Minneapolis too. I think that's the right answer: this should be a local decision and each community should decide the level of policing it wants (including none at all).

ncallaway 6y ago

I downvoted you because I live in a Seattle, and this question shows a ignorance of the facts: “Letting them take over entire city blocks as Seattle has done?”

brigandish 6y ago
A bare assertion followed by a bare refusal isn't much help. If you would instead provide some information, that would be a big help to all those of us who do not live in Seattle.
- chillwaves 6y ago
  If the statement is not factual, what else is there to say? All I know is Fox News has been caught photoshopping images and lying during their news broadcasts about these incidents.
  - brigandish 6y ago
    > If the statement is not factual, what else is there to say? What is actually occurring, as I requested. It was a hint that the reply at least wasn't up to the standard of HN.
  - chrisco255 6y ago
    They've taken over blocks, blocking traffic, stopping the flow of people and businesses into that area, they've disregarded state and local laws, etc. It's completely factual. Whatever Fox News has been doing to drum up hits on their website is completely irrelevant.
- exogen 6y ago
  This is a very accurate take that leads with some context before getting to the current situation: https://nostalgebraist.tumblr.com/post/620713736158724096/hey-to-clarify-with-your-post-about-the-autonomous https://nostalgebraist.tumblr.com/post/620713736158724096/he...
  - 6y ago