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I hope something good is implemented to favor local news agencies. I don't use facebook but I see how google get benefits of the other news channels. I mostly

by mrath 6y ago

I hope something good is implemented to favor local news agencies. I don't use facebook but I see how google get benefits of the other news channels. I mostly go to abc, news.com.au directly for news headlines. But I know lot of my friends use facebook for the latest news. This does not benefit the original content creator.

umeshunni 6y ago
Nobody makes any money off of news these days. Publishers are just looking for someone to milk and they, of course, go after whoever has the biggest pocketbooks. Here's a good read on the fate of a US publisher that illustrates what has happened over the last 10 years to publishers https://digiday.com/media/caught-in-the-mushy-middle-how-quartz-fell-to-earth/ https://digiday.com/media/caught-in-the-mushy-middle-how-qua...
perilunar 6y ago
Why? I have no sympathy at all News Corp and Nine Entertainment. No one is forcing them to share content on Facebook if they don't like the deal. This is pretty clearly old media trying to shake down new media. (And tell your friends to stop using Facebook for news and go to a real news site.)
- Closi 6y ago
  I think one argument is that the news papers do the recording, then if you share a link Facebook scrapes it, takes the image and puts it on their site (regardless of copyright/licensing status) and takes the news headline. Most users then don’t click through, but the content is stolen to fill up facebooks timeline.
  - dmortin 6y ago
    You can stop Facebook scraping your site via robots.txt, so the control is at the publisher. If FB crawler is blocked then it can't scrape anything and only the link is posted.
smcleod 6y ago
It's not local news pushing for this, it's being pushed by Murdoch's media empire. Based on the poor (some would say downright disgusting) quality of their content - they absolutely do not deserve even the funding they currently have.
- nsonha 6y ago
  I don't really watch the news and not from Australia originally even though I live here, so forgive my stupid question: is there local news in Australia? I've never heard of any.
  - ehnto 6y ago
    There are a bunch of different TV networks, some with local news. I must admit I haven't kept track for a good decade or so, it's possible they've all died out. I would say local newspapers and radio are the majority of local news sources though.
    - perilunar 6y ago
      The ABC also has a strong local presence, with 50+ regional radio stations and their websites.
  - octodog 6y ago
    There's definitely local news but you'll find more locally specific programming on radio or in newspapers than on TV. On TV the ABC, Channel 7, Channel 9 and Channel 10 all have state-specific broadcasts and newsrooms while SBS runs a single national program. Because the capital cities in Australia make up such a large proportion of the population you will rarely get "local news" on TV if you live in a regional town or area. Most regional and local papers are owned by either News Corp or Australia Community Media (which was formerly owned by Fairfax before they were acquired by Nine) though, so even these local news outlets rely on the big players. If you live in Melbourne's north I recommend trying to get a hold of "The Local Paper", which is an independent paper that focuses on things like what the local council gets up to. It's a pretty different experience to reading one of the big mastheads.
ehnto 6y ago
For anyone confused, ABC here is the Australian Broadcast Corporation, which is Australia's national news network, mostly government funded. Not to be confused with the ABC, the American Broadcast Company.

by mrath 6y ago

umeshunni 6y ago

Nobody makes any money off of news these days. Publishers are just looking for someone to milk and they, of course, go after whoever has the biggest pocketbooks. Here's a good read on the fate of a US publisher that illustrates what has happened over the last 10 years to publishers https://digiday.com/media/caught-in-the-mushy-middle-how-quartz-fell-to-earth/ https://digiday.com/media/caught-in-the-mushy-middle-how-qua...

perilunar 6y ago

Why? I have no sympathy at all News Corp and Nine Entertainment. No one is forcing them to share content on Facebook if they don't like the deal. This is pretty clearly old media trying to shake down new media. (And tell your friends to stop using Facebook for news and go to a real news site.)

Closi 6y ago
I think one argument is that the news papers do the recording, then if you share a link Facebook scrapes it, takes the image and puts it on their site (regardless of copyright/licensing status) and takes the news headline. Most users then don’t click through, but the content is stolen to fill up facebooks timeline.
- dmortin 6y ago
  You can stop Facebook scraping your site via robots.txt, so the control is at the publisher. If FB crawler is blocked then it can't scrape anything and only the link is posted.

smcleod 6y ago

It's not local news pushing for this, it's being pushed by Murdoch's media empire. Based on the poor (some would say downright disgusting) quality of their content - they absolutely do not deserve even the funding they currently have.

nsonha 6y ago
I don't really watch the news and not from Australia originally even though I live here, so forgive my stupid question: is there local news in Australia? I've never heard of any.
- ehnto 6y ago
  There are a bunch of different TV networks, some with local news. I must admit I haven't kept track for a good decade or so, it's possible they've all died out. I would say local newspapers and radio are the majority of local news sources though.
  - perilunar 6y ago
    The ABC also has a strong local presence, with 50+ regional radio stations and their websites.
- octodog 6y ago
  There's definitely local news but you'll find more locally specific programming on radio or in newspapers than on TV. On TV the ABC, Channel 7, Channel 9 and Channel 10 all have state-specific broadcasts and newsrooms while SBS runs a single national program. Because the capital cities in Australia make up such a large proportion of the population you will rarely get "local news" on TV if you live in a regional town or area. Most regional and local papers are owned by either News Corp or Australia Community Media (which was formerly owned by Fairfax before they were acquired by Nine) though, so even these local news outlets rely on the big players. If you live in Melbourne's north I recommend trying to get a hold of "The Local Paper", which is an independent paper that focuses on things like what the local council gets up to. It's a pretty different experience to reading one of the big mastheads.

ehnto 6y ago

For anyone confused, ABC here is the Australian Broadcast Corporation, which is Australia's national news network, mostly government funded. Not to be confused with the ABC, the American Broadcast Company.