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I'm sure that will be addressed far faster than the 60 years it took to hold tobacco companies accountable, only possible through government.

scarface74 6y ago
You mean the same government that still hands out farm subsidies to tobacco farmers? https://www.ewg.org/agmag/2018/05/thank-you-subsidizing-smoking https://www.ewg.org/agmag/2018/05/thank-you-subsidizing-smok... How many decades did it take the government to rule that it was discrimination not to allow gay people to adopt kids? Get pregnant by in vitro insemination? If you aren’t in the affected group it’s easy to tell those who are to be patient.
- kristopolous 6y ago
  What's the point here? Mine is there's endless propaganda depicting corporate America as bright shiny perfect perfection and government as slow clunky incompetence and I'm really really tired of the bullshit. It's not academic, it's not scholarly, it's mindless partisan cheerleading, some kind of religious orthodoxy, a blind adherence to something that's obviously nonsense. It's just endless streams of nonstop crap from places line heritage, hoover, heartland, aei, cato, they're overflowing bullshit factories. Enough of that nonsense already. Governments do incorporated things and corporations do governance - they are different structures of cultural institutions that interact with each other all the time.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    Well let’s see. In 25 years I’m quite positive that I have never been discriminated against when it came to hiring working in technology. That’s from working at some of the smallest companies to some of the largest. I can’t say the same when it comes to being stopped by police when I “looked suspicious”. Given a choice between trusting Big Tech and Big Government. I trust Big Tech a lot more. Non anecdotally, who were the first to recognize the rights of LGBTQ? The government or Big Tech?
    - kristopolous 6y ago
      The Kingdom of France 1791? Monaco in 1793? Prussia in 1794? When do you want to start this? Maybe 20th century instead? The October Revolution in 1917, Poland 1932, Denmark 1933? Oh you're talking LGBT protected class discrimination for employment! Pennsylvania, 1975, Wisconsin 1982? Maybe you're talking about Bostock v. Clayton County(2020) which got to the SCOTUS because a private corporation, in 2019, fired an employee for being gay. That's how it got there, a private company not respecting LGBT rights. So maybe you mean the courts? When was the first case in lgbt's people's favour? One, Inc. v. Olesen 1958. Nineteen fifty eight. So yeah, probably government. Feel free to move the goalposts around if you want. I'm pretty confident on this on wherever you decide to place them

scarface74 6y ago

You mean the same government that still hands out farm subsidies to tobacco farmers? https://www.ewg.org/agmag/2018/05/thank-you-subsidizing-smoking https://www.ewg.org/agmag/2018/05/thank-you-subsidizing-smok... How many decades did it take the government to rule that it was discrimination not to allow gay people to adopt kids? Get pregnant by in vitro insemination? If you aren’t in the affected group it’s easy to tell those who are to be patient.

kristopolous 6y ago
What's the point here? Mine is there's endless propaganda depicting corporate America as bright shiny perfect perfection and government as slow clunky incompetence and I'm really really tired of the bullshit. It's not academic, it's not scholarly, it's mindless partisan cheerleading, some kind of religious orthodoxy, a blind adherence to something that's obviously nonsense. It's just endless streams of nonstop crap from places line heritage, hoover, heartland, aei, cato, they're overflowing bullshit factories. Enough of that nonsense already. Governments do incorporated things and corporations do governance - they are different structures of cultural institutions that interact with each other all the time.
- scarface74 6y ago
  Well let’s see. In 25 years I’m quite positive that I have never been discriminated against when it came to hiring working in technology. That’s from working at some of the smallest companies to some of the largest. I can’t say the same when it comes to being stopped by police when I “looked suspicious”. Given a choice between trusting Big Tech and Big Government. I trust Big Tech a lot more. Non anecdotally, who were the first to recognize the rights of LGBTQ? The government or Big Tech?
  - kristopolous 6y ago
    The Kingdom of France 1791? Monaco in 1793? Prussia in 1794? When do you want to start this? Maybe 20th century instead? The October Revolution in 1917, Poland 1932, Denmark 1933? Oh you're talking LGBT protected class discrimination for employment! Pennsylvania, 1975, Wisconsin 1982? Maybe you're talking about Bostock v. Clayton County(2020) which got to the SCOTUS because a private corporation, in 2019, fired an employee for being gay. That's how it got there, a private company not respecting LGBT rights. So maybe you mean the courts? When was the first case in lgbt's people's favour? One, Inc. v. Olesen 1958. Nineteen fifty eight. So yeah, probably government. Feel free to move the goalposts around if you want. I'm pretty confident on this on wherever you decide to place them