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I had the same experience. It was a video of a riot line of police with shields walking down the street, and people shooting fireworks at them. I welcome any c

I had the same experience. It was a video of a riot line of police with shields walking down the street, and people shooting fireworks at them. I welcome any content that shows events that the media isn't providing. But if someone is going to curate a list like this, don't sell it as something it's not.

grey-area 6y ago
You're probably mistaking police flash bangs for fireworks. These devices are completely inappropriate for crowd control, but routinely deployed by US police in the protests.
- chrisco255 6y ago
  Ah what is appropriate? Letting them take over entire city blocks as Seattle has done? Allowing mobs to burn down minority neighborhoods in Minneapolis?
  - rabidrat 6y ago
    I live basically in the CHAZ in Seattle, they haven't taken over anything. The police just abandoned the precinct building and left it unlocked and people are gathering peacefully to listen to other people speak. It's like a street festival or a farmer's market but with an explicit aim of stopping police from killing black people.
    - chrisco255 6y ago
      Ah what's the end game? They were forced by leadership to abandon the area. That wasn't their choice to abandon their post. What are your thoughts on the 300+ black people murdered in Chicago so far in the past year by gang violence? You think that a CHAZ in Chicago would help those lives? You think defunding the police would lead to less or more deaths there overall?
      - kenjackson 6y ago
        Police sure haven’t helped. Defunding and funding other areas probably helps reduce the murder rate.
  - TeaDrunk 6y ago
    The police abandoned the city blocks first. The intent was to purposefully set up a situation where cops can point to rioting in an area they intentionally vacated so riots could happen. Protestors have responded by sitting and watching documentaries about police brutality in that area.
    - pnako 6y ago
      Maybe this can set an example for the rest of the nation, then. There have been calls to abolish the police. If Seattle can do it, maybe Atlanta and Minneapolis too. I think that's the right answer: this should be a local decision and each community should decide the level of policing it wants (including none at all).
  - ncallaway 6y ago
    I downvoted you because I live in a Seattle, and this question shows a ignorance of the facts: “Letting them take over entire city blocks as Seattle has done?”
    - brigandish 6y ago
      A bare assertion followed by a bare refusal isn't much help. If you would instead provide some information, that would be a big help to all those of us who do not live in Seattle.
      - chillwaves 6y ago
        If the statement is not factual, what else is there to say? All I know is Fox News has been caught photoshopping images and lying during their news broadcasts about these incidents.
        brigandish 6y ago
        > If the statement is not factual, what else is there to say? What is actually occurring, as I requested. It was a hint that the reply at least wasn't up to the standard of HN.
        chrisco255 6y ago
        They've taken over blocks, blocking traffic, stopping the flow of people and businesses into that area, they've disregarded state and local laws, etc. It's completely factual. Whatever Fox News has been doing to drum up hits on their website is completely irrelevant.
      - exogen 6y ago
        This is a very accurate take that leads with some context before getting to the current situation: https://nostalgebraist.tumblr.com/post/620713736158724096/hey-to-clarify-with-your-post-about-the-autonomous https://nostalgebraist.tumblr.com/post/620713736158724096/he...
        6y ago
- vlozko 6y ago
  Very unlikely. Fireworks use against the police more common that you think. You’re just not going to see that many videos of them as it doesn’t help the narrative. A buddy of mine is a cop who had the unfortunate duty of being one of the riot police in my city and it’s not easy to keep your cool while having rocks, fireworks, and almost a Molotov cocktail tossed at you.
  - deathgrips 6y ago
    Don't dish out what you can't take. I've never seen an example of riots breaking out in a city before police instigate violence with rubber bullets and tear gas. Also, if he can't keep his cool under those conditions, he has an obligation to change jobs because if he can't handle it he's just putting other people in danger.
    - WillPostForFood 6y ago
      >I've never seen an example of riots breaking out in a city before police instigate violence with rubber bullets and tear gas. LA Riots in 1992. Police pulled out to avoid conflict and it resulted in looting and burning for days until the National Guard showed up.
      - deathgrips 6y ago
        You don't think police instigated violence when they killed Rodney King?
        sfj 6y ago
        >I've never seen an example of riots breaking out in a city before police instigate violence with rubber bullets and tear gas. (emphasis mine)
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grey-area 6y ago

You're probably mistaking police flash bangs for fireworks. These devices are completely inappropriate for crowd control, but routinely deployed by US police in the protests.

chrisco255 6y ago
Ah what is appropriate? Letting them take over entire city blocks as Seattle has done? Allowing mobs to burn down minority neighborhoods in Minneapolis?
- rabidrat 6y ago
  I live basically in the CHAZ in Seattle, they haven't taken over anything. The police just abandoned the precinct building and left it unlocked and people are gathering peacefully to listen to other people speak. It's like a street festival or a farmer's market but with an explicit aim of stopping police from killing black people.
  - chrisco255 6y ago
    Ah what's the end game? They were forced by leadership to abandon the area. That wasn't their choice to abandon their post. What are your thoughts on the 300+ black people murdered in Chicago so far in the past year by gang violence? You think that a CHAZ in Chicago would help those lives? You think defunding the police would lead to less or more deaths there overall?
    - kenjackson 6y ago
      Police sure haven’t helped. Defunding and funding other areas probably helps reduce the murder rate.
- TeaDrunk 6y ago
  The police abandoned the city blocks first. The intent was to purposefully set up a situation where cops can point to rioting in an area they intentionally vacated so riots could happen. Protestors have responded by sitting and watching documentaries about police brutality in that area.
  - pnako 6y ago
    Maybe this can set an example for the rest of the nation, then. There have been calls to abolish the police. If Seattle can do it, maybe Atlanta and Minneapolis too. I think that's the right answer: this should be a local decision and each community should decide the level of policing it wants (including none at all).
- ncallaway 6y ago
  I downvoted you because I live in a Seattle, and this question shows a ignorance of the facts: “Letting them take over entire city blocks as Seattle has done?”
  - brigandish 6y ago
    A bare assertion followed by a bare refusal isn't much help. If you would instead provide some information, that would be a big help to all those of us who do not live in Seattle.
    - chillwaves 6y ago
      If the statement is not factual, what else is there to say? All I know is Fox News has been caught photoshopping images and lying during their news broadcasts about these incidents.
      - brigandish 6y ago
        > If the statement is not factual, what else is there to say? What is actually occurring, as I requested. It was a hint that the reply at least wasn't up to the standard of HN.
      - chrisco255 6y ago
        They've taken over blocks, blocking traffic, stopping the flow of people and businesses into that area, they've disregarded state and local laws, etc. It's completely factual. Whatever Fox News has been doing to drum up hits on their website is completely irrelevant.
    - exogen 6y ago
      This is a very accurate take that leads with some context before getting to the current situation: https://nostalgebraist.tumblr.com/post/620713736158724096/hey-to-clarify-with-your-post-about-the-autonomous https://nostalgebraist.tumblr.com/post/620713736158724096/he...
      - 6y ago
vlozko 6y ago
Very unlikely. Fireworks use against the police more common that you think. You’re just not going to see that many videos of them as it doesn’t help the narrative. A buddy of mine is a cop who had the unfortunate duty of being one of the riot police in my city and it’s not easy to keep your cool while having rocks, fireworks, and almost a Molotov cocktail tossed at you.
- deathgrips 6y ago
  Don't dish out what you can't take. I've never seen an example of riots breaking out in a city before police instigate violence with rubber bullets and tear gas. Also, if he can't keep his cool under those conditions, he has an obligation to change jobs because if he can't handle it he's just putting other people in danger.
  - WillPostForFood 6y ago
    >I've never seen an example of riots breaking out in a city before police instigate violence with rubber bullets and tear gas. LA Riots in 1992. Police pulled out to avoid conflict and it resulted in looting and burning for days until the National Guard showed up.
    - deathgrips 6y ago
      You don't think police instigated violence when they killed Rodney King?
      - sfj 6y ago
        >I've never seen an example of riots breaking out in a city before police instigate violence with rubber bullets and tear gas. (emphasis mine)
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