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Missing from the article (and the linked summary of other sites that do this) is letscrate.com, which does it so well that I'm not even interested in looking at

Missing from the article (and the linked summary of other sites that do this) is letscrate.com, which does it so well that I'm not even interested in looking at sendoid. It's dead easy, and my clients understand and remember the name after I say it once.

pr0zac 16y ago
I dig Crate, but we don't really do the same thing. letscrate.com is an really awesomely designed and implemented cloud storage provider. Sendoid.com is an in browser file transfer method. I wouldn't consider us competitors (at most very indirectly) and think more than anything we complement products like Crate or DropBox.
- sahillavingia 16y ago
  Agreed. Want to talk privately sometime (email in profile)?
- shawndrost 16y ago
  Hmm... I see that it's implemented differently, but aren't they accomplishing the same user task? Fundamentally, they're both solutions to the "this file is too large to email" problem. Or am I missing something?
  - bjtitus 16y ago
    Looks so to me but I think the difference is transfer speed. I tried transferring a 200 MB file and it was very quick (over the local network). I couldn't try that with Crate (I don't have a pro account) but uploading a 25 MB file had taken 10 minutes before I gave up and decided it wasn't worth it.
  - systemtrigger 16y ago
    Letscrate makes you wait for the upload to finish before you get the link. Sendoid gives you a link instantly, regardless of file size. The free version of Letscrate limits files to 50MB and your library caps out at 200MB; the $9/month plan allows larger files and caps out at 10GB. Sendoid is free for all file sizes and imposes no caps on the size of your library. Letscrate offers no security measures. Sendoid creates an encrypted link between sharer and receiver, and has options for password-protection and one-time usage.
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imx 16y ago
sendoid avoids storage/bandwidth overhead ... from now on letscrate is "old school"
tjarratt 16y ago
Crate is really great, and I definitely like their UI a lot more, but Sendoid really knocks it out of the park in terms of speed and security.
- tptacek 16y ago
  Tell me more about how this solves security problems? (I'm asking, I don't already have an opinion). Why can I trust this service with (say) a zip file full of source code?
  - pr0zac 16y ago
    It forms an encrypted direct connection between the sender and the receiver. The data never touches anyone else's server and is encrypted the entire trip. Everyone feel free to run a tcpdump dump of the traffic if you want confirmation thats not from the guy who made the service.
    - tptacek 16y ago
      Really? You wrote custom crypto for this? Or do you use an SSL connection? I wouldn't have thought to ask that. My original concern was: how do you assure someone like me that an attacker can't redirect files to other locations?
      - pr0zac 16y ago
        The protection against redirection is inherent in the underlying peer-to-peer media streaming technology we built on top of (RTMFP), as is the crypto. Going off your profile you seem to be a security researcher type. Would love to discuss things further with you offband. Feel free to email me directly, email is in my profile.
        tptacek 16y ago
        I don't believe that your email is there. I may take a whack at it later this week (we're launching a product and I'm pretty busy, but I do love me some custom crypto protocol.)
sahillavingia 16y ago
Thanks for the mention! A lazy link because I'll never miss a chance to shameless plug: http://letscrate.com/ http://letscrate.com/ Excited to check out Sendoid though.
- shii 16y ago
  So good you guys are blocked at the local library. I see it as validation and a compliment, well done.
- pr0zac 16y ago
  I'd have done the same thing. And yes, I upvoted your shameless plug. ;)
- skbohra123 16y ago
  Looks very good. Found a small bug - At the pricing page I see a logout link, though I am not even logged in.
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- bvi 16y ago
  There's a limit in file size for the "free" plan (50mb?). What makes Crate a better alternative to Sendoid?
  - ericd 16y ago
    This is a total deal breaker for me. This is something that needs to work for all files in order to be useful, and I'm not willing to get tied into a monthly subscription for something so occasional and basic. This is the kind of thing that people used to charge $5-20 one time for as shareware, not $9/mo.
- whyleym 16y ago
  Really like both Sendoid and LetsCrate - good work guys. Just to shamelessly plug another link - a project that i've been working on (for the past 6 months) aimed at super simple file sharing : http://www.filepigeon.com http://www.filepigeon.com - hope you don't mind the plug - thought it was related and it's something I've been working on for a while !

pr0zac 16y ago

I dig Crate, but we don't really do the same thing. letscrate.com is an really awesomely designed and implemented cloud storage provider. Sendoid.com is an in browser file transfer method. I wouldn't consider us competitors (at most very indirectly) and think more than anything we complement products like Crate or DropBox.

sahillavingia 16y ago
Agreed. Want to talk privately sometime (email in profile)?
shawndrost 16y ago
Hmm... I see that it's implemented differently, but aren't they accomplishing the same user task? Fundamentally, they're both solutions to the "this file is too large to email" problem. Or am I missing something?
- bjtitus 16y ago
  Looks so to me but I think the difference is transfer speed. I tried transferring a 200 MB file and it was very quick (over the local network). I couldn't try that with Crate (I don't have a pro account) but uploading a 25 MB file had taken 10 minutes before I gave up and decided it wasn't worth it.
- systemtrigger 16y ago
  Letscrate makes you wait for the upload to finish before you get the link. Sendoid gives you a link instantly, regardless of file size. The free version of Letscrate limits files to 50MB and your library caps out at 200MB; the $9/month plan allows larger files and caps out at 10GB. Sendoid is free for all file sizes and imposes no caps on the size of your library. Letscrate offers no security measures. Sendoid creates an encrypted link between sharer and receiver, and has options for password-protection and one-time usage.
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imx 16y ago

sendoid avoids storage/bandwidth overhead ... from now on letscrate is "old school"

tjarratt 16y ago

Crate is really great, and I definitely like their UI a lot more, but Sendoid really knocks it out of the park in terms of speed and security.

tptacek 16y ago
Tell me more about how this solves security problems? (I'm asking, I don't already have an opinion). Why can I trust this service with (say) a zip file full of source code?
- pr0zac 16y ago
  It forms an encrypted direct connection between the sender and the receiver. The data never touches anyone else's server and is encrypted the entire trip. Everyone feel free to run a tcpdump dump of the traffic if you want confirmation thats not from the guy who made the service.
  - tptacek 16y ago
    Really? You wrote custom crypto for this? Or do you use an SSL connection? I wouldn't have thought to ask that. My original concern was: how do you assure someone like me that an attacker can't redirect files to other locations?
    - pr0zac 16y ago
      The protection against redirection is inherent in the underlying peer-to-peer media streaming technology we built on top of (RTMFP), as is the crypto. Going off your profile you seem to be a security researcher type. Would love to discuss things further with you offband. Feel free to email me directly, email is in my profile.
      - tptacek 16y ago
        I don't believe that your email is there. I may take a whack at it later this week (we're launching a product and I'm pretty busy, but I do love me some custom crypto protocol.)

sahillavingia 16y ago

Thanks for the mention! A lazy link because I'll never miss a chance to shameless plug: http://letscrate.com/ http://letscrate.com/ Excited to check out Sendoid though.

shii 16y ago
So good you guys are blocked at the local library. I see it as validation and a compliment, well done.
pr0zac 16y ago
I'd have done the same thing. And yes, I upvoted your shameless plug. ;)
skbohra123 16y ago
Looks very good. Found a small bug - At the pricing page I see a logout link, though I am not even logged in.
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bvi 16y ago
There's a limit in file size for the "free" plan (50mb?). What makes Crate a better alternative to Sendoid?
- ericd 16y ago
  This is a total deal breaker for me. This is something that needs to work for all files in order to be useful, and I'm not willing to get tied into a monthly subscription for something so occasional and basic. This is the kind of thing that people used to charge $5-20 one time for as shareware, not $9/mo.
whyleym 16y ago
Really like both Sendoid and LetsCrate - good work guys. Just to shamelessly plug another link - a project that i've been working on (for the past 6 months) aimed at super simple file sharing : http://www.filepigeon.com http://www.filepigeon.com - hope you don't mind the plug - thought it was related and it's something I've been working on for a while !