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Yeah, I spent some time growing up at a huge American international school in South East Asia that had a large G&T program in the elementary school with separat
by DaiPlusPlus 6y ago
Yeah, I spent some time growing up at a huge American international school in South East Asia that had a large G&T program in the elementary school with separate classrooms and teachers and I was in there for English classes only in Grade 4 - I still didn't have a good head for mathematics at that point (heck, I didn't until I repeated the last 2 years of Sixth Form some 10 years later).
I was kicked out of that program when I entered Grade 5: they said I wasn't applying myself in the class (naturally). In Grade 4 the class' "objective" was to write an anthology book (we got them printed and bound and everything!) - at the end of the year my anthology was physically the thinnest compared to the ~7-8 others in the same class (this was Southeast Asia - there's a lot of overachievers with Tiger Moms there, I remember one girl's book was almost an inch thick - I didn't know how that was humanely possible for a 10 year-old...).
When I was in primary and secondary school I did have IQ tests and other cognitive ability tests done by the educational psychologist assigned to me and I had results varying from 125 to 135 - but I don't put too much weight on them. There was an ASD test for face-reading ability that had a question I got wrong because I said there was nothing abnormal about a drawing of a face without eyelashes (what...). What's weird is every time I've taken the GRE (for Masters degree course applications) I've scored 97%+ percentile in the language questions... but only 75%+ in the quant sections - but that's because I keep on missing some quant questions because I run out of time. I know I can apply for extra time but ETS' instructions on their website for getting extra-time are contradictory and confusing.
In secondary-school in the UK for our GCSE qualifications the year-group's subject classes were split into ability groups and I was in the highest ability group in all of the subjects (but that really isn't saying much though). My second sixth-form did have a G&T program but no-one told me about it and I didn't think to apply - I imagine those who were in it had referrals from their feeder-schools whereas I was an individual student coming from a different Sixth Form (I was 18, everyone else around me was 16). I don't think I would have coped with the workload anyway - and I don't know what, exactly, if anything, a G&T program would have helped for A-Levels really - I only know one person who did 5 courses at A-Level and he wasn't in the G&T program.
Call me naive, but I was surprised to learn that G&T programs are still a thing in industry: When I got my first job after uni at Microsoft in Redmond I learned about their semi-secretive "HiPo" ("High-potential") employee program (think: SDEs and PMs who get fast-tracked for Director roles or executive positions beyond). To get in to it your skip-level will inform you in a private meeting, and you can't apply or ask to join (some joke that asking to join it instantly disqualifies you for life - or something).
- ElFitz 6y agoWell, it's not just about school, G&T programs and A-Levels. If you haven't, I sincerely and whole heartedly recommend you look into it. Understanding the impact it has on adult life too is both fascinating and revealing. I sadly can't recommend any English book on it, since all of those I read were recommended by French people, but I really insist; please do look into it :-) Also, if you haven't already and are still open to seeing a psychologist, try finding one with some (preferably significant) experience with gifted adults :-) Anyway, I apologize if I come of as too insistant or intrusive; it really is a personal and sensitive subject to me.