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What exactly is your point? That no evil enterprise is that bad so long as it employs people? You will find yourself defending some pretty bad shit with that ar

by sho 6y ago

What exactly is your point? That no evil enterprise is that bad so long as it employs people? You will find yourself defending some pretty bad shit with that argument.

aaron695 6y ago
How about some respect is shown for the 2 million human beings I mentioned working in developing counties who's jobs are at risk during what could be the largest economic downtime in 100 years. How about violins are not pulled out and instead we think about the million (an estimate from a NGO) Africans who work in artisan diamond mines, their work is horrific and vital to their families. And something really hard, don't just ignore the fact their lives are ruined because we hate De Beers and think about what happens now and how can we fix this? If you don't want to fix this, at least don't jump around with glee about the fact lives are ruined.
- neilwilson 6y ago
  Look up “Job Guarantee”. Then you’ll have your answer. Unemployment is always a political choice.
- sukilot 6y ago
  It's interesting that people are downvoting (from their computers made from Blood Rare-Earth Minerals) you but no one is posting links to relief efforts they've donated to or paid taxes for. It's easy to martyr other people.
  - rowanG077 6y ago
    Ah yes, because you aren't allowed to criticize something unless you yourself are perfect morally clean.
perl4ever 6y ago
I don't think I understand the viewpoint that an industry is evil because people involved in it do bad things. If the output of the industry makes the world worse, then it makes sense to me to consider calling it an evil industry. Like, I have doubts about ad-tech, whether it benefits society. But if on the other hand, it's just that an industry is lucrative and attracts evil people, I don't see that evil as accruing to the industry. Mining stones and making pretty jewelry doesn't, that I can see, have any inherent component of injustice. I mean, there are diamonds mined in Canada; are they tainted somehow?

by sho 6y ago

What exactly is your point? That no evil enterprise is that bad so long as it employs people? You will find yourself defending some pretty bad shit with that argument.

aaron695 6y ago

How about some respect is shown for the 2 million human beings I mentioned working in developing counties who's jobs are at risk during what could be the largest economic downtime in 100 years. How about violins are not pulled out and instead we think about the million (an estimate from a NGO) Africans who work in artisan diamond mines, their work is horrific and vital to their families. And something really hard, don't just ignore the fact their lives are ruined because we hate De Beers and think about what happens now and how can we fix this? If you don't want to fix this, at least don't jump around with glee about the fact lives are ruined.

neilwilson 6y ago
Look up “Job Guarantee”. Then you’ll have your answer. Unemployment is always a political choice.
sukilot 6y ago
It's interesting that people are downvoting (from their computers made from Blood Rare-Earth Minerals) you but no one is posting links to relief efforts they've donated to or paid taxes for. It's easy to martyr other people.
- rowanG077 6y ago
  Ah yes, because you aren't allowed to criticize something unless you yourself are perfect morally clean.

perl4ever 6y ago

I don't think I understand the viewpoint that an industry is evil because people involved in it do bad things. If the output of the industry makes the world worse, then it makes sense to me to consider calling it an evil industry. Like, I have doubts about ad-tech, whether it benefits society. But if on the other hand, it's just that an industry is lucrative and attracts evil people, I don't see that evil as accruing to the industry. Mining stones and making pretty jewelry doesn't, that I can see, have any inherent component of injustice. I mean, there are diamonds mined in Canada; are they tainted somehow?