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so they say that having little grey matter (like early birds) correlates with "empathy, agreeableness and cooperation." But maybe early birds are only so empath

by Tarsul 6y ago

so they say that having little grey matter (like early birds) correlates with "empathy, agreeableness and cooperation." But maybe early birds are only so empathatic and agreeable because their day/night cycle is not always disrupted by how the world is set up? Whereas us grumpy night owls having a case of a bad monday morning is maybe just because we have to stand up early and don't want to?

stOneskull 6y ago
it seems people are nicer in the early morning. getting the milk or newspaper, saying 'good morning' to each other, walking to a nice sunrise and stuff. and it seems that the extra gray matter is like the way people can 'think too much' about things, especially with social stuff. i can see how that also leads to social problems and psychiatric problems, as well as the wanting some peace at night to have a relaxed mind, and that social thinking to be quieter. sounds like social media at night should be avoided.
- Gravityloss 6y ago
  "The Narrow Land" by Jack Vance kind of dwells on this.
  - stOneskull 6y ago
    i'll find a copy. it's a pretty interesting thing to think about.
vezycash 6y ago
This corona virus holiday's given me the opportunity to revert to my preferred working time. It's taken tremendous restraints not to harm those who give me eye/head aches from interrupting my sleep. It's maddening how early risers in my family just can't understand why anyone would stay awake overnight and start their sleep when others are just waking up.
spideymans 6y ago
Possibly. Anecdotal, of course, but I pretty much consistently don't want to communicate with anybody before 3 PM, whether in person or digitally. Now late at night, however, I'm a total social animal.
dx034 6y ago
I find it counterintuitive. I would've thought that a night owl is more compatible with being a social person. Much of our social exchange happens in the evening (you rarely meet friends before work). Getting up at 5am as an early bird doesn't really give you any more time with other people compared to getting up later. So why night owls should be less sociable confuses me.
- jariel 6y ago
  " Much of our social exchange happens in the evening (you rarely meet friends before work)." Socialization is not 'friends' it's 'everyone'.
  - dx034 6y ago
    Good point but at all places I've worked, it's more likely to have meetings or other social exchanges after 5pm than before 8am.
- mywittyname 6y ago
  Not really. Even today, because of work, much of our socialization happens during the day time. For most of human history, the vast majority of people were asleep at night. So it's unlikely our night owl ancestors were terribly social.

by Tarsul 6y ago

stOneskull 6y ago

it seems people are nicer in the early morning. getting the milk or newspaper, saying 'good morning' to each other, walking to a nice sunrise and stuff. and it seems that the extra gray matter is like the way people can 'think too much' about things, especially with social stuff. i can see how that also leads to social problems and psychiatric problems, as well as the wanting some peace at night to have a relaxed mind, and that social thinking to be quieter. sounds like social media at night should be avoided.

Gravityloss 6y ago
"The Narrow Land" by Jack Vance kind of dwells on this.
- stOneskull 6y ago
  i'll find a copy. it's a pretty interesting thing to think about.

vezycash 6y ago

This corona virus holiday's given me the opportunity to revert to my preferred working time. It's taken tremendous restraints not to harm those who give me eye/head aches from interrupting my sleep. It's maddening how early risers in my family just can't understand why anyone would stay awake overnight and start their sleep when others are just waking up.

spideymans 6y ago

Possibly. Anecdotal, of course, but I pretty much consistently don't want to communicate with anybody before 3 PM, whether in person or digitally. Now late at night, however, I'm a total social animal.

dx034 6y ago

I find it counterintuitive. I would've thought that a night owl is more compatible with being a social person. Much of our social exchange happens in the evening (you rarely meet friends before work). Getting up at 5am as an early bird doesn't really give you any more time with other people compared to getting up later. So why night owls should be less sociable confuses me.

jariel 6y ago
" Much of our social exchange happens in the evening (you rarely meet friends before work)." Socialization is not 'friends' it's 'everyone'.
- dx034 6y ago
  Good point but at all places I've worked, it's more likely to have meetings or other social exchanges after 5pm than before 8am.
mywittyname 6y ago
Not really. Even today, because of work, much of our socialization happens during the day time. For most of human history, the vast majority of people were asleep at night. So it's unlikely our night owl ancestors were terribly social.