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I actually don't mind this for the gen pop. For them, showing the URL is a bit like showing the path to the current process in the title bar. As a dev, hiding

by danjc 6y ago

I actually don't mind this for the gen pop. For them, showing the URL is a bit like showing the path to the current process in the title bar. As a dev, hiding the HTTPS prefix is already irritating especially when copying the URL. If you copy the whole URL, you're fine. If you manually select part of it, starting with the domain, the prefix doesn't copy. I expect this upcoming change will exacerbate this kind of problem. Don't we just need a persistent dev mode that doesn't mess around with the URL?

nerdponx 6y ago
I see absolutely no benefit whatsoever for the general population. Dumbing things down for people does not make technology easier, it makes people dumber. If your goal is to make people dumb and compliant, this is a great idea. Of course we know that's what Google's goal is, because that's what keeps the money flowing.
- ubercow13 6y ago
  > Dumbing things down for people does not make technology easier That's a bit of an absurd claim. Should my grandparents just be using luakit instead of Safari? Are you sure you aren't projecting your experience of technology onto people with a totally different experience of it to you? >I see absolutely no benefit whatsoever for the general population A benefit is reduced probability of being phished.
- toofy 6y ago
  > Dumbing things down for people does not make technology easier, it makes people dumber. It’s important to understand, while we, the users of Hacker News may find it odd that everyone doesn’t know these things, perspective will tell us they probably have other priorities for their time–and that’s OK. I don’t know, and honestly don’t care to know or prioritize the deep and intricate complexities of how deodorant or shampoo is made—or how it’s distributed, made safe for human use, etc. This does not make me dumber, it frees up my mental time for other priorities. The same can be said for the 1000s of things I use daily from toothpaste to refrigerators to stop-lights to dentistry. While I may have a general idea how these processes happen, my knowledge is by no means expansive. A deep understanding of everything should absolutely not be a requirement to function in a society. Is Google doing this for bad reasons? Maybe. But let’s not pretend as if simplifying things makes people dumber. It’s freeing up our limited resources. Expecting everyone to know deep details on the thousands of things they use everyday would absolutely bog us down into uselessness. One of the smartest things we ever did was to free ourselves from needing an intense understanding of everything we use throughout the day. As you move throughout today, notice the thousands of things you interact with which you have little idea about what went into it.
james-skemp 6y ago
I spent an extra 10-15 minutes trying to debug an issue with Shibboleth last week with two other devs that had never set it up on a server before. Why? Because we weren't forcing https yet in IIS and while I thought I had told it to go to the https site I was either wrong or it had changed. The address bar notification no longer jumps out at me. I second a persistent dev mode / not continuing to remove address data from the address bar by default.

by danjc 6y ago

nerdponx 6y ago

I see absolutely no benefit whatsoever for the general population. Dumbing things down for people does not make technology easier, it makes people dumber. If your goal is to make people dumb and compliant, this is a great idea. Of course we know that's what Google's goal is, because that's what keeps the money flowing.

ubercow13 6y ago
> Dumbing things down for people does not make technology easier That's a bit of an absurd claim. Should my grandparents just be using luakit instead of Safari? Are you sure you aren't projecting your experience of technology onto people with a totally different experience of it to you? >I see absolutely no benefit whatsoever for the general population A benefit is reduced probability of being phished.
toofy 6y ago
> Dumbing things down for people does not make technology easier, it makes people dumber. It’s important to understand, while we, the users of Hacker News may find it odd that everyone doesn’t know these things, perspective will tell us they probably have other priorities for their time–and that’s OK. I don’t know, and honestly don’t care to know or prioritize the deep and intricate complexities of how deodorant or shampoo is made—or how it’s distributed, made safe for human use, etc. This does not make me dumber, it frees up my mental time for other priorities. The same can be said for the 1000s of things I use daily from toothpaste to refrigerators to stop-lights to dentistry. While I may have a general idea how these processes happen, my knowledge is by no means expansive. A deep understanding of everything should absolutely not be a requirement to function in a society. Is Google doing this for bad reasons? Maybe. But let’s not pretend as if simplifying things makes people dumber. It’s freeing up our limited resources. Expecting everyone to know deep details on the thousands of things they use everyday would absolutely bog us down into uselessness. One of the smartest things we ever did was to free ourselves from needing an intense understanding of everything we use throughout the day. As you move throughout today, notice the thousands of things you interact with which you have little idea about what went into it.

james-skemp 6y ago

I spent an extra 10-15 minutes trying to debug an issue with Shibboleth last week with two other devs that had never set it up on a server before. Why? Because we weren't forcing https yet in IIS and while I thought I had told it to go to the https site I was either wrong or it had changed. The address bar notification no longer jumps out at me. I second a persistent dev mode / not continuing to remove address data from the address bar by default.