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> That gigabyte of private information was released and there wasn't a single scandal of it shows how tight the operation was, moreover any reading of the cable

> That gigabyte of private information was released and there wasn't a single scandal of it shows how tight the operation was, moreover any reading of the cables demonstrates how well the US diplomatic corps were actually doing their jobs. No, it just shows how subservient to U.S. foreign policy the American press is (they did not undertake any widespread publishing of embarrassing details from the cables), and how uninterested and easily misled the American public is about our government's actions overseas. > What's far more interesting about this case, is the fact that the press used to be in love with Assange, and now they hate him. The American press was never that in love with Assange -- the smear jobs and carping about his character started very soon after the Manning leaks, as Cockburn points out. The nail in the coffin was publishing the DNC emails, which despite containing a great deal of newsworthy details and indications of corruption, became a convenient scapegoat for Clinton's loss in the 2016 election and are now viewed almost exclusively in that light. (I think some legitimate criticisms can be lodged against Assange for electioneering in his timing of the leaks, but Clinton did joke about assassinating him and did all she could to put him in prison, so ....)

jariel 6y ago
"No, it just shows how subservient to U.S. foreign policy the American press is " This is demonstrably false. Forst - the press loves a scandal, it's what they live on. They were happy to talk about Snowden, Assange etc. for quite a long time. You're literally saying the press is acting against their own best interest and purpose which is upside down. Second - we don't need the press to find wrongdoing. It's all there for you to see. Where is the scandal? The cable releases prove that the American diplomatic corpos is doing a good job by any measure.
- luckylion 6y ago
  > You're literally saying the press is acting against their own best interest and purpose which is upside down. Are you suggesting that them acting a certain way shows that acting that way is in their best interest (because they wouldn't act that way otherwise)? Are you sure they know what cause of action is in their best interest? Are you sure they consider "their best interest" to be the same you consider it to be? Is the 24/7 news cycle hype in the best interest of "the media"? Was the war-drumming with barely any skepticism about the Iraq war(s) in their best interest? > Second - we don't need the press to find wrongdoing. It's all there for you to see. Where is the scandal? What? The public at large gets their information from the press. If the press does not report, it does not happen for large parts of the public. That's why taking control of the press is usually the first thing during any coup and for any authoritarian state.

jariel 6y ago

"No, it just shows how subservient to U.S. foreign policy the American press is " This is demonstrably false. Forst - the press loves a scandal, it's what they live on. They were happy to talk about Snowden, Assange etc. for quite a long time. You're literally saying the press is acting against their own best interest and purpose which is upside down. Second - we don't need the press to find wrongdoing. It's all there for you to see. Where is the scandal? The cable releases prove that the American diplomatic corpos is doing a good job by any measure.

luckylion 6y ago
> You're literally saying the press is acting against their own best interest and purpose which is upside down. Are you suggesting that them acting a certain way shows that acting that way is in their best interest (because they wouldn't act that way otherwise)? Are you sure they know what cause of action is in their best interest? Are you sure they consider "their best interest" to be the same you consider it to be? Is the 24/7 news cycle hype in the best interest of "the media"? Was the war-drumming with barely any skepticism about the Iraq war(s) in their best interest? > Second - we don't need the press to find wrongdoing. It's all there for you to see. Where is the scandal? What? The public at large gets their information from the press. If the press does not report, it does not happen for large parts of the public. That's why taking control of the press is usually the first thing during any coup and for any authoritarian state.