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> Sounds like the NSA who couldn't point to a single instance of stopping any type of terrorist attack/operation despite collecting anything they could get thei

> Sounds like the NSA who couldn't point to a single instance of stopping any type of terrorist attack/operation despite collecting anything they could get their hands on. This can’t be true - there are plenty of sources citing foiled plots and we see similar publications from other governments (EU and beyond) citing similar justifications. A quick google yields: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nsa-director-50-potential-terrorist-attacks-thwarted-controversial/story?id=19428148 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nsa-director-50-potential-te... https://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/nsa-leak-keith-alexander-092971 https://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/nsa-leak-keith-alexan... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/gchq-foiled-terror-attacks-europe-brexit-eu-jeremy-fleming-a8407196.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/gchq-foiled-terr...

voxic11 6y ago
Those stories are from 2013 and later investigation found them to be false claims. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/nsa-program-stopped-no-terror-attacks-says-white-house-panel-flna2D11783588 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/nsa-program-stopped-no-te...
- ASalazarMX 6y ago
  IIRC, some of those were entrapment, luring gullible individuals and goading them into terrorism.
- theferalrobot 6y ago
  You didn’t even read your own article. A panel member claimed the phone metadata collection program hadn’t saved any lives/foiled any attacks - not that the NSA itself hasn’t. Additionally they present this as being at odds with the Obama administrations documentation, not a refutation (they didn’t find them to be false claims).
  - voxic11 6y ago
    Did you read your own articles? They specifically are claims that the NSA metadata collection program known as PRISM foiled terrorist attacks. They claim that evidence will not be presented publicly but will be presented to lawmakers. These exact lawmakers claim to never have received such evidence. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/13/senators-challenge-nsa-surveillance-terrorism https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/13/senators-chall...
    - theferalrobot 6y ago
      > No u Lol the article you list was published before the documentation cited was presented (and before my articles were even published) - additionally you are moving the goalposts - the op claim is that the nsa hasn’t foiled any terror plots - not about metadata collection

voxic11 6y ago

Those stories are from 2013 and later investigation found them to be false claims. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/nsa-program-stopped-no-terror-attacks-says-white-house-panel-flna2D11783588 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/nsa-program-stopped-no-te...

ASalazarMX 6y ago
IIRC, some of those were entrapment, luring gullible individuals and goading them into terrorism.
theferalrobot 6y ago
You didn’t even read your own article. A panel member claimed the phone metadata collection program hadn’t saved any lives/foiled any attacks - not that the NSA itself hasn’t. Additionally they present this as being at odds with the Obama administrations documentation, not a refutation (they didn’t find them to be false claims).
- voxic11 6y ago
  Did you read your own articles? They specifically are claims that the NSA metadata collection program known as PRISM foiled terrorist attacks. They claim that evidence will not be presented publicly but will be presented to lawmakers. These exact lawmakers claim to never have received such evidence. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/13/senators-challenge-nsa-surveillance-terrorism https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/13/senators-chall...
  - theferalrobot 6y ago
    > No u Lol the article you list was published before the documentation cited was presented (and before my articles were even published) - additionally you are moving the goalposts - the op claim is that the nsa hasn’t foiled any terror plots - not about metadata collection