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People are actually returning their iPad 2s for reasons other than production defects? (If there were defects I am sure the blogs would be abuzz about it by now

People are actually returning their iPad 2s for reasons other than production defects? (If there were defects I am sure the blogs would be abuzz about it by now.) I know this one was Wife defect but the story says Apple is looking to see if there are any production defects. I am pondering getting one and couldn't find one anywhere. To the people returning for refund of same amount - come over on eBay ;)

cletus 16y ago
I have a Verizon model, which I'll be returning. It was the only one I could find. I ordered an AT&T model online at 6am EST on March 11. It's still in Hong Kong. I can return this model up til this coming Saturday and get a free refund. iPads have had huge problems with mass organized scalping, particularly here in New York. For many, it's their job to camp out all night and buy 2 iPads, fronted by a guy carrying a wad of $50k+ cash for a bunch of people in the line. The scalpers want AT&T models first and foremost (the GSM 3G is internationally usable) and then Wifi-only. They aren't interested in Verizon, which I guess explains whY I found out. I've considered eBaying it but I don't think Verizon models are as in high demand as the other two. Probably more hassle than it's worth.
- Legion 16y ago
  It was so necessary to have an iPad 2 RIGHT NOW that you had to go run out and buy a model you didn't even want?
  - DrJokepu 16y ago
    Whoa, why so hostile?
    - Hawramani 16y ago
      He didn't sound hostile to me.
  - BigZaphod 16y ago
    Does it matter?
  - cletus 16y ago
    I consider it a loaner until my 3G model arrives.
  - sammcd 16y ago
    Interesting. I didn't even question this part :). 80% of people here make money off of software. If I was being funded by an iPad app it definitely would be that important.
    - Dylanlacey 16y ago
      See, that's the first thing that occurred to me. Why can't you use an emulator OR an older iPad for development for a couple of weeks?
      - megablast 16y ago
        Emulators aren't 100%, I had a problem with an app that worked perfectly on the simulator, and crashed on the device. Also, if you are doing something with the new features, like the cameras, you will need a new device.
        schrototo 16y ago
        Also of note: there is no iPhone/iPad emulator, only a simulator. There's huge differences in performance, in addition to some rare bugs that only manifest themselves on either the simulator or the device.
      - sammcd 16y ago
        I'm working on an iPad app now. There are many things you need the device for. First, the lower amount of memory is very important for testing how your views load and unload. Second I've noticed pretty big differences in how the screen looks on my MBP as opposed to on the actual device.
      - nomurrcy 16y ago
        I can't believe people are responding negatively to your comment. Of course you can do development in the simulator or on an older model for a couple of weeks. Developing on the old model is probably a must-do for at least another year or two. Furthermore, while you do need to test on a device later in the dev cycle, I (and most other devs I know) actually don't deploy to hardware for days at a time early in the cycle. Early in the iphone dev cycle there were enormous disparities between bugs on hardware and the simulator. Some symbols didn't even link consistently between the two and re targeting would cause compilation errors. This is no longer the case and the two targets are very, very close. In fact, if someone told me they wanted to get into ipad development, I would tell them to write their app first, and then buy an iPad to test it on.
- blinkingled 16y ago
  Yikes - the scalping! Curious if you just bought the Verizon model because that was the only one you got in the stores or if you felt it was no good without LTE (compared to ATT) and so are returning it? Speaking of Verizon LTE - I had no idea my area was already LTE enabled until I went looking in the context of 4G upgrade for my Xoom. For the iPad2 it doesn't matter as it's going to be used outside of the US so only AT&T model will do - wish the scalpers slowed down a bit!
  - cletus 16y ago
    I go overseas. There is no choice for me other than the AT&T version, which works in Australia and Europe. Verizon only works in the US. Even if that was OK, Verizon annoy me by charging $35 activation. I loathe that kind of charge. I'll pay for service. Don't make pay for the "privilege" of paying for service. Particularly when you basically have to do nothing. LTE isn't even a consideration for me until LTE rollouts are widespread.
    - jlees 16y ago
      I travel overseas too, but I'd not want to face the roaming charges (I guess I could swap sims, but I have a phone hotspot anyway). Getting an iPad that works in the US (especially when there's a high density of Apple users, aka AT&T can't cope) is way more valuable to me - I'm only considering the Verizon version.
zzzmarcus 16y ago
Mine has a couple pretty bad light leaks on the bottom right which had me considering returning it. I decided not to though since they are only noticeable on a black screen (letter boxed videos notably) and because I don't want to have to wait for a replacement.
- electromagnetic 16y ago
  Wait till you're already going to be without it for a brief period and send it out expedited then. Although be careful if you don't have a good mail carrier. I had a package containing a replacement Kindle left in my apartment hallway by a moronic FedEx employee, who I'm only guessing forged the 'signature required' box so he didn't have to drop it off at the post office. Although Amazon was great with the replacement, it took 2 minutes to get the guy to send out a replacement for a battery defect at 2:30am. Having dealt with them before back in the UK my wife simply didn't believe it that they actually had competent people working past 6pm let alone midnight (customer service here in Canada is on par to what black men got at KKK rallys).
andyman1080 16y ago
A friend of mine bought the Verizon 3G model so that, between iPad and iPhone, he'd have a device on both of the major networks. After using it for a few days he found the Verizon coverage/speed to be noticeably slower at his home and office, so he's about to return it for a GSM 3G model.

cletus 16y ago

I have a Verizon model, which I'll be returning. It was the only one I could find. I ordered an AT&T model online at 6am EST on March 11. It's still in Hong Kong. I can return this model up til this coming Saturday and get a free refund. iPads have had huge problems with mass organized scalping, particularly here in New York. For many, it's their job to camp out all night and buy 2 iPads, fronted by a guy carrying a wad of $50k+ cash for a bunch of people in the line. The scalpers want AT&T models first and foremost (the GSM 3G is internationally usable) and then Wifi-only. They aren't interested in Verizon, which I guess explains whY I found out. I've considered eBaying it but I don't think Verizon models are as in high demand as the other two. Probably more hassle than it's worth.

Legion 16y ago
It was so necessary to have an iPad 2 RIGHT NOW that you had to go run out and buy a model you didn't even want?
- DrJokepu 16y ago
  Whoa, why so hostile?
  - Hawramani 16y ago
    He didn't sound hostile to me.
- BigZaphod 16y ago
  Does it matter?
- cletus 16y ago
  I consider it a loaner until my 3G model arrives.
- sammcd 16y ago
  Interesting. I didn't even question this part :). 80% of people here make money off of software. If I was being funded by an iPad app it definitely would be that important.
  - Dylanlacey 16y ago
    See, that's the first thing that occurred to me. Why can't you use an emulator OR an older iPad for development for a couple of weeks?
    - megablast 16y ago
      Emulators aren't 100%, I had a problem with an app that worked perfectly on the simulator, and crashed on the device. Also, if you are doing something with the new features, like the cameras, you will need a new device.
      - schrototo 16y ago
        Also of note: there is no iPhone/iPad emulator, only a simulator. There's huge differences in performance, in addition to some rare bugs that only manifest themselves on either the simulator or the device.
    - sammcd 16y ago
      I'm working on an iPad app now. There are many things you need the device for. First, the lower amount of memory is very important for testing how your views load and unload. Second I've noticed pretty big differences in how the screen looks on my MBP as opposed to on the actual device.
    - nomurrcy 16y ago
      I can't believe people are responding negatively to your comment. Of course you can do development in the simulator or on an older model for a couple of weeks. Developing on the old model is probably a must-do for at least another year or two. Furthermore, while you do need to test on a device later in the dev cycle, I (and most other devs I know) actually don't deploy to hardware for days at a time early in the cycle. Early in the iphone dev cycle there were enormous disparities between bugs on hardware and the simulator. Some symbols didn't even link consistently between the two and re targeting would cause compilation errors. This is no longer the case and the two targets are very, very close. In fact, if someone told me they wanted to get into ipad development, I would tell them to write their app first, and then buy an iPad to test it on.
blinkingled 16y ago
Yikes - the scalping! Curious if you just bought the Verizon model because that was the only one you got in the stores or if you felt it was no good without LTE (compared to ATT) and so are returning it? Speaking of Verizon LTE - I had no idea my area was already LTE enabled until I went looking in the context of 4G upgrade for my Xoom. For the iPad2 it doesn't matter as it's going to be used outside of the US so only AT&T model will do - wish the scalpers slowed down a bit!
- cletus 16y ago
  I go overseas. There is no choice for me other than the AT&T version, which works in Australia and Europe. Verizon only works in the US. Even if that was OK, Verizon annoy me by charging $35 activation. I loathe that kind of charge. I'll pay for service. Don't make pay for the "privilege" of paying for service. Particularly when you basically have to do nothing. LTE isn't even a consideration for me until LTE rollouts are widespread.
  - jlees 16y ago
    I travel overseas too, but I'd not want to face the roaming charges (I guess I could swap sims, but I have a phone hotspot anyway). Getting an iPad that works in the US (especially when there's a high density of Apple users, aka AT&T can't cope) is way more valuable to me - I'm only considering the Verizon version.

zzzmarcus 16y ago

Mine has a couple pretty bad light leaks on the bottom right which had me considering returning it. I decided not to though since they are only noticeable on a black screen (letter boxed videos notably) and because I don't want to have to wait for a replacement.

electromagnetic 16y ago
Wait till you're already going to be without it for a brief period and send it out expedited then. Although be careful if you don't have a good mail carrier. I had a package containing a replacement Kindle left in my apartment hallway by a moronic FedEx employee, who I'm only guessing forged the 'signature required' box so he didn't have to drop it off at the post office. Although Amazon was great with the replacement, it took 2 minutes to get the guy to send out a replacement for a battery defect at 2:30am. Having dealt with them before back in the UK my wife simply didn't believe it that they actually had competent people working past 6pm let alone midnight (customer service here in Canada is on par to what black men got at KKK rallys).

andyman1080 16y ago

A friend of mine bought the Verizon 3G model so that, between iPad and iPhone, he'd have a device on both of the major networks. After using it for a few days he found the Verizon coverage/speed to be noticeably slower at his home and office, so he's about to return it for a GSM 3G model.