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Hopefully people will have an open mind reading my comment, however within spiritual circles it is somewhat known that many people can't tolerate doing any type
by loceng 6y ago
Hopefully people will have an open mind reading my comment, however within spiritual circles it is somewhat known that many people can't tolerate doing any type of entheogen too many times; what that amount of times is and dosing where you lose complete connection will be subjective. I'm also not trying to suggest all changes that occur after going through such an experience is the act of "losing your soul or connection to your soul" - however that arguably is possibility at one end of the spectrum of possibilities. Some people seem fine doing Ayahuasca their whole lives, like shamans - whether they are now dependant on it and have regular access to it is another question, however other people through ego mind addiction (entheogens are powerful for breaking physical addictions, however are addictive for the mind) and force themselves into ceremonies or experience that they know they will regularly if not 100% of the time experience pure terror, not listening to their body's fear response for what it doesn't want to experience and is trying to guide them away from experiencing - instead their ego mind maintaining control and tricks them to continue; the body is inherently intelligent and part of the equation that needs to not be ignored to find balance and allowing your body's systems to guide you to optimal health, equilibrium.
- craftinator 6y ago> however within spiritual circles it is somewhat known Writing things like this is really losses credibility for you.
- downerending 6y agoI took that as those people, having had a chance to observe the behavior of these drugs on many occasions, are theorizing a phenomenon. In other words, science, or something like it.
- loceng 6y agoOh yeah? How else would you define the context of people who gather regularly in community in relation to spirituality or gatherings for ceremony? Curious what preconceptions and prejudices you have of who you classify that are automatically discredited in your mind because they use the term "spiritual circle" - or am I misunderstanding what in that sentence discredits me? Ever been to an Ayahuasca ceremony or talking circle? Just trying to get an idea of your own experiences.
- heavenlyblue 6y agoLast time I had been in a spiritual circle in London there was a guy telling a bunch of single mothers that when he went to India he saw flying meditating yogis. The funny thing is that the mothers were there for the company (it was a pleasant place to be, that’s why I was visiting too); but the guy’s assumption was that everyone visiting was literally an idiot because he thought they came there for his theories. I am sorry but most of the time when I hear this another theory of mind (of which there’s a bunch on Shroomery btw - you are not alone) and “spiritual circles” this is what I imagine you are.
- dang 6y agoThat dips one toe into religious flamewar and another into personal attack. We don't allow those things on HN, so please don't post like this here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- throwbackThurs 6y agoGains credibility from me - a person who lives their lives holistically rather than by a predefined formulation