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You somehow find out what is really important to you and what is not and see that really clearly. That is what happened to me after a couple of experiences. An

You somehow find out what is really important to you and what is not and see that really clearly. That is what happened to me after a couple of experiences. And I acted on it and I am not sad about it. Now, I don't do it that often. But if you choose to do ketamine, you are in for a ride.

samstave 6y ago
Is this same/similar to DMT?
- pinopinopino 6y ago
  Never did DMT, so can't really say. Sorry :) It is a highly personal experience, which is difficult to share with others though. I think it is similar in the sense, that you can't dismiss it. It is very real for you personally. I am not a spiritual guy, you know? I think that makes it a bit hard to think about it. It didn't make my spiritual or anything or less grounded in my life.
- loceng 6y ago
  I eventually hope to write a book detailing the differences, among other things, however it will likely be years (time doesn't really exist though eh) - but if interested once I finally release it then you can email me matt@engn.com. Contemplating doing a pay-what-you-want model for it or refund provided if you've read it.
- andybak 6y ago
  No. Nothing is like ketamine. I mean nothing is like DMT but you can see some parallels with acid is mushrooms. But ketamine is utterly different to anything else I've tried.
  - kderbyma 6y ago
    DXM is very much like ketamine at least at normal recreational doses (not sure about K hole)
    - non-entity 6y ago
      Ive read that while they're all disassociatives, DXM is still a pretty different experience from ketamine. I personally havent tried the latter though, so this just secondhand information.
      - amanaplanacanal 6y ago
        I would expect PCP to be very similar also, though I have never tried it.
        pinopinopino 6y ago
        It is similar, but you won't go down like with ketamine. So while you are in fantasy land, you can walk, talk and interact. It is a fun drug to do in nature far away from the city, talk to elves, clouds and trees. Just lie down, think about silly things and watch the clouds go by, it is very peaceful, almost child like. That is the good side of pcp. In cities I can imagine it is hellish, but perhaps also adventurous if it is an quite old city with dark alleys. I never dared to do it in cities. And when you are back, you know it was just fantasy. It is like walking into a book of Neil Gaiman. It stimulates the fantasy and makes you more open to whatever comes up. It lowers your shields of critical thinking. (And that is where the danger lies too btw, so keep notice of that) In a hectic city that goes wrong, but in a nice safe place in nature. Even if you meet a stranger and have a talk with him, he tells you his story and you marvel in it, it is fine, it is very friendly. Almost magical. It can be fun, but it can also bite you seriously. Be safe and watch out :) It is not as safe as ketamine and not as safe as LSD. Too much makes you look like some futuristic drunk, so you really need the get the dosage right. It is on par with alcohol (society's favourite NMDA antagonist) with the stupid things you can do on it. Only alcohol puts you down at a certain moment, so it limits the damage. PCP does not, well not enough.
- pinopinopino 6y ago
  I have thought a bit about this. I think the difference is this: Ketamine leaves you in a space where you are alone, in your own universe. And classical psychedelics lead you to a space where you with others. I haven't done DMT, but I did other psychedelics in high dosages. In the end they are similar in a way. Another way to see it: I feel dissociatives are more suitable for people who make their own values and psychedelics are more suitable for people who follow external values. I think both positions are valid and needed btw, one is just more dangerous than the other. It is easier to stray. Classical psychedelics feel strange to me, not unwelcome, but I am in alien territory. But dissociatives feel more like home coming. EDIT: Or perhaps they pull you to those sides. If I need to associate a term pair to the two, then chaos and order are coming to mind. Chaos is dissociatives, and order is psychedelics. But I might be wrong here, who knows. It is very subjective.
downerending 6y ago
> And I acted on it and I am not sad about it. That sounds like a story. Can we hear a bit of it?
- pinopinopino 6y ago
  Well, it is not an exciting story really. I started from dropping out of university because I got children really early. I wasn't a bad student, but not the top 10 either. I studied physics (EDIT: dunno why I wrote psychology). I got my first child, second. Then both my parents died, I found out my brother was a pedophile at the same time. He touched my child, I was truly alone now. That was the moment something broke into me. Like crack goes the clock work. I then decided to start a startup right in economical crash, I build an instagram like application. I got hooked on GHB during that time to deal with the pressure. I got my third child. The startup got funded, 1.5 million euros. I broke down, withdrawn and had to sober up within two weeks. I kept going on. The company went down, instagram was first and we lost the race. We even had some Russian oligarch visiting us to buy us, but oh well. Missed that boat. I was left with quite a debt and some problems with the tax office. So I wrote myself out of my country, I went of the grid. If you write yourself out of the registers, they can't find you here. And it is not illegal. I also had a hash dealer invested in my company. So it was better to hide out. Then I started up another company, a small game company, which blew up right into my face later on, while getting addicted to opiates and another child. I wisely switched to kratom, but I was clearly broken. I also picked up some bad other habits, like running a small designer drug thing. Well, I don't want to say to much about that. Then I started to experiment with ketamine. Fun times, stopped the kratom and got a real job for once in my life instead of the cowboy behaviour. I was building search engines, it was not that hard actually and I learned the practicality of knowing how to read and apply papers. University still got something good into me, it learned me how to learn. Fast forward a couple of years. I had stopped doing drugs altogether, except for snuff. My life was relatively peaceful, but boring. I still had some shadows of the past haunting me, like the taxes. I started doing ketamine once in a while again. It was fun. Then I had the first K-hole. I stopped snuff and I started working out the next day. I dealt with the tax problem. I am pretty fit now. I do ketamine once in the three months. And every time, I fix up a new problem I find out in my life. I am now working out the thing with my brother, what happened there. See, I found the moment that happened I felt truly alone and simply stopped processing emotions and then my life devolved into utter chaos. I just soldiered on without feeling, marching and marching. Now I am on my way to the top of the company I am in now and even if I fall out of it, I have a pretty good perspective. I am handling a complex merger of multiple platforms. I have time for my family, I learn my kids to shoot with a bow and do little projects with them. Life is less hard and more fun. I am now planning to study again. And I care for both my nieces every week. So I even have some surrogate daughters too now. What can a man wish for? I only got boys to my dismay. And now I have to stop, because that is too much personal details and some people might pin me down. ^_^ That's it, ups and downs. I think ketamine normalized me, gave me a change to be in society instead of on the edge of it. It is a weird thing. And I don't use it all anymore. It is not needed.

samstave 6y ago

Is this same/similar to DMT?

pinopinopino 6y ago
Never did DMT, so can't really say. Sorry :) It is a highly personal experience, which is difficult to share with others though. I think it is similar in the sense, that you can't dismiss it. It is very real for you personally. I am not a spiritual guy, you know? I think that makes it a bit hard to think about it. It didn't make my spiritual or anything or less grounded in my life.
loceng 6y ago
I eventually hope to write a book detailing the differences, among other things, however it will likely be years (time doesn't really exist though eh) - but if interested once I finally release it then you can email me matt@engn.com. Contemplating doing a pay-what-you-want model for it or refund provided if you've read it.
andybak 6y ago
No. Nothing is like ketamine. I mean nothing is like DMT but you can see some parallels with acid is mushrooms. But ketamine is utterly different to anything else I've tried.
- kderbyma 6y ago
  DXM is very much like ketamine at least at normal recreational doses (not sure about K hole)
  - non-entity 6y ago
    Ive read that while they're all disassociatives, DXM is still a pretty different experience from ketamine. I personally havent tried the latter though, so this just secondhand information.
    - amanaplanacanal 6y ago
      I would expect PCP to be very similar also, though I have never tried it.
      - pinopinopino 6y ago
        It is similar, but you won't go down like with ketamine. So while you are in fantasy land, you can walk, talk and interact. It is a fun drug to do in nature far away from the city, talk to elves, clouds and trees. Just lie down, think about silly things and watch the clouds go by, it is very peaceful, almost child like. That is the good side of pcp. In cities I can imagine it is hellish, but perhaps also adventurous if it is an quite old city with dark alleys. I never dared to do it in cities. And when you are back, you know it was just fantasy. It is like walking into a book of Neil Gaiman. It stimulates the fantasy and makes you more open to whatever comes up. It lowers your shields of critical thinking. (And that is where the danger lies too btw, so keep notice of that) In a hectic city that goes wrong, but in a nice safe place in nature. Even if you meet a stranger and have a talk with him, he tells you his story and you marvel in it, it is fine, it is very friendly. Almost magical. It can be fun, but it can also bite you seriously. Be safe and watch out :) It is not as safe as ketamine and not as safe as LSD. Too much makes you look like some futuristic drunk, so you really need the get the dosage right. It is on par with alcohol (society's favourite NMDA antagonist) with the stupid things you can do on it. Only alcohol puts you down at a certain moment, so it limits the damage. PCP does not, well not enough.
pinopinopino 6y ago
I have thought a bit about this. I think the difference is this: Ketamine leaves you in a space where you are alone, in your own universe. And classical psychedelics lead you to a space where you with others. I haven't done DMT, but I did other psychedelics in high dosages. In the end they are similar in a way. Another way to see it: I feel dissociatives are more suitable for people who make their own values and psychedelics are more suitable for people who follow external values. I think both positions are valid and needed btw, one is just more dangerous than the other. It is easier to stray. Classical psychedelics feel strange to me, not unwelcome, but I am in alien territory. But dissociatives feel more like home coming. EDIT: Or perhaps they pull you to those sides. If I need to associate a term pair to the two, then chaos and order are coming to mind. Chaos is dissociatives, and order is psychedelics. But I might be wrong here, who knows. It is very subjective.

downerending 6y ago

> And I acted on it and I am not sad about it. That sounds like a story. Can we hear a bit of it?

pinopinopino 6y ago
Well, it is not an exciting story really. I started from dropping out of university because I got children really early. I wasn't a bad student, but not the top 10 either. I studied physics (EDIT: dunno why I wrote psychology). I got my first child, second. Then both my parents died, I found out my brother was a pedophile at the same time. He touched my child, I was truly alone now. That was the moment something broke into me. Like crack goes the clock work. I then decided to start a startup right in economical crash, I build an instagram like application. I got hooked on GHB during that time to deal with the pressure. I got my third child. The startup got funded, 1.5 million euros. I broke down, withdrawn and had to sober up within two weeks. I kept going on. The company went down, instagram was first and we lost the race. We even had some Russian oligarch visiting us to buy us, but oh well. Missed that boat. I was left with quite a debt and some problems with the tax office. So I wrote myself out of my country, I went of the grid. If you write yourself out of the registers, they can't find you here. And it is not illegal. I also had a hash dealer invested in my company. So it was better to hide out. Then I started up another company, a small game company, which blew up right into my face later on, while getting addicted to opiates and another child. I wisely switched to kratom, but I was clearly broken. I also picked up some bad other habits, like running a small designer drug thing. Well, I don't want to say to much about that. Then I started to experiment with ketamine. Fun times, stopped the kratom and got a real job for once in my life instead of the cowboy behaviour. I was building search engines, it was not that hard actually and I learned the practicality of knowing how to read and apply papers. University still got something good into me, it learned me how to learn. Fast forward a couple of years. I had stopped doing drugs altogether, except for snuff. My life was relatively peaceful, but boring. I still had some shadows of the past haunting me, like the taxes. I started doing ketamine once in a while again. It was fun. Then I had the first K-hole. I stopped snuff and I started working out the next day. I dealt with the tax problem. I am pretty fit now. I do ketamine once in the three months. And every time, I fix up a new problem I find out in my life. I am now working out the thing with my brother, what happened there. See, I found the moment that happened I felt truly alone and simply stopped processing emotions and then my life devolved into utter chaos. I just soldiered on without feeling, marching and marching. Now I am on my way to the top of the company I am in now and even if I fall out of it, I have a pretty good perspective. I am handling a complex merger of multiple platforms. I have time for my family, I learn my kids to shoot with a bow and do little projects with them. Life is less hard and more fun. I am now planning to study again. And I care for both my nieces every week. So I even have some surrogate daughters too now. What can a man wish for? I only got boys to my dismay. And now I have to stop, because that is too much personal details and some people might pin me down. ^_^ That's it, ups and downs. I think ketamine normalized me, gave me a change to be in society instead of on the edge of it. It is a weird thing. And I don't use it all anymore. It is not needed.