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On the other hand, I also have a hard time trusting the government with the health data. I would actually prefer a federation of foundations under public law.

BiteCode_dev 6y ago
As for most things, we probably would be better of with a lot of separated institutions instead of a big centralized governement: one in charge of police, one in charge of health, on in charge of education, one in charge or budget, all of them separated and not governed by one entity at the top. But that's what we got now, so If I have to chose, I chose the gouvernement. At least in my country: they are paying for health already.
- Yetanfou 6y ago
  > At least in my country: they are paying for health already. Assuming that you pay taxes it will be you paying for health care services, albeit indirectly. If you live on government subsidies it is others who pay for your health services. The government is the intermediator between tax payers and beneficiaries.
  - BiteCode_dev 6y ago
    Of course, I used that phrasing to highlight the fact it causes less conflicts of interests (albeit not none).
labster 6y ago
The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to health.
- mola 6y ago
  Yeah well, that's maybe an over active imagination. The best healthcare systems in the world (with respect to quality, and quantity of people getting it) are public health systems. So I dunno, I'd rather have the (functioning democratic) government, a body I actually have a stake in be in charge of health as opposed to a body that it's only duty is to it's share holders. As I see it, a governmental body is (should be) something we all have equal share in independent of our financial situation. I'm quite aware to the ways this body could malfunction. But at least we have a moral footing to work against these malfunctions. With a public/private company as long as it makes money, I have no moral grounds to oppose it ruining my and our lives.
- BiteCode_dev 6y ago
  I heard enough about the Amercan health system to be eternally grateful to the one I have in France. I made my tax declaration this month. I made it with a smile.
- sumedh 6y ago
  You will say that if you live in the US, try living in some other developed countries with free healthcare, you will change your mind.
- ChuckNorris89 6y ago
  In Europe the most terrifying words you can hear are "We're gonna switch to a US style health system."
  - theduder99 6y ago
    US has best health care in the world.
    - labster 6y ago
      Slight correction: the US has the world's best health care that money can buy.

BiteCode_dev 6y ago

As for most things, we probably would be better of with a lot of separated institutions instead of a big centralized governement: one in charge of police, one in charge of health, on in charge of education, one in charge or budget, all of them separated and not governed by one entity at the top. But that's what we got now, so If I have to chose, I chose the gouvernement. At least in my country: they are paying for health already.

Yetanfou 6y ago
> At least in my country: they are paying for health already. Assuming that you pay taxes it will be you paying for health care services, albeit indirectly. If you live on government subsidies it is others who pay for your health services. The government is the intermediator between tax payers and beneficiaries.
- BiteCode_dev 6y ago
  Of course, I used that phrasing to highlight the fact it causes less conflicts of interests (albeit not none).

labster 6y ago

The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to health.

mola 6y ago
Yeah well, that's maybe an over active imagination. The best healthcare systems in the world (with respect to quality, and quantity of people getting it) are public health systems. So I dunno, I'd rather have the (functioning democratic) government, a body I actually have a stake in be in charge of health as opposed to a body that it's only duty is to it's share holders. As I see it, a governmental body is (should be) something we all have equal share in independent of our financial situation. I'm quite aware to the ways this body could malfunction. But at least we have a moral footing to work against these malfunctions. With a public/private company as long as it makes money, I have no moral grounds to oppose it ruining my and our lives.
BiteCode_dev 6y ago
I heard enough about the Amercan health system to be eternally grateful to the one I have in France. I made my tax declaration this month. I made it with a smile.
sumedh 6y ago
You will say that if you live in the US, try living in some other developed countries with free healthcare, you will change your mind.
ChuckNorris89 6y ago
In Europe the most terrifying words you can hear are "We're gonna switch to a US style health system."
- theduder99 6y ago
  US has best health care in the world.
  - labster 6y ago
    Slight correction: the US has the world's best health care that money can buy.