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I mean our Twitter and Facebook have been shutting down accounts from elected offices of NATO "targets" like Venezuela and Iran for a while now https://thegrayz

by xster 6y ago

I mean our Twitter and Facebook have been shutting down accounts from elected offices of NATO "targets" like Venezuela and Iran for a while now https://thegrayzone.com/2020/01/12/us-pressure-social-media-censoring-suspending-venezuela-iran-syria https://thegrayzone.com/2020/01/12/us-pressure-social-media-.... I don't see people up in arms saying "legality is irrelevant".

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lrem 6y ago
Twitter and Facebook are American companies, with the US being part of NATO. Zoom tries to pretend it's not a Chinese company.
remus 6y ago
Similarly, I don't think we can really hold the US up as some sort of bastion of moral excellence. As a non US citizen you have very little right to privacy and the US government will use this against you (see: forcibly having to unlock your devices so border agents can search them). On balance I think the US is a lot better than China, but there's a lot of room for improvement.
- echlebek 6y ago
  Luckily, you don't have to hold up the US as a bastion to criticize China. They can both be criticized independently.
  - tatersolid 6y ago
    > They can both be criticized independently. But not inside China. And therein lies the great difference.
jcytong 6y ago
That's not the right comparison. To use your example, a closer example would be You believe it's unjust to have those FB/Twitter accounts shutdown and you host a Zoom call to build a campaign to voice out. Your local government ask Zoom to shut you down. Zoom then deletes your account as well as those of your allies in Vanezuela and Iran. On top of that, the local law requires Zoom to give data to identify you at which point your life is at risk or a jail term without a trial. That's what those people face in China.
abc-xyz 6y ago
> our Twitter and Facebook Aren’t you a CCP member? (Sorry in advance if you take offense to me assuming your nationality and political allegiance based on your comment history.)
codekansas 6y ago
Do you have a more reliable source than this website? I worked on content moderation at Facebook for several years, I highly doubt that the accounts were deleted because of government pressure

by xster 6y ago

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lrem 6y ago

Twitter and Facebook are American companies, with the US being part of NATO. Zoom tries to pretend it's not a Chinese company.

remus 6y ago

Similarly, I don't think we can really hold the US up as some sort of bastion of moral excellence. As a non US citizen you have very little right to privacy and the US government will use this against you (see: forcibly having to unlock your devices so border agents can search them). On balance I think the US is a lot better than China, but there's a lot of room for improvement.

echlebek 6y ago
Luckily, you don't have to hold up the US as a bastion to criticize China. They can both be criticized independently.
- tatersolid 6y ago
  > They can both be criticized independently. But not inside China. And therein lies the great difference.

jcytong 6y ago

That's not the right comparison. To use your example, a closer example would be You believe it's unjust to have those FB/Twitter accounts shutdown and you host a Zoom call to build a campaign to voice out. Your local government ask Zoom to shut you down. Zoom then deletes your account as well as those of your allies in Vanezuela and Iran. On top of that, the local law requires Zoom to give data to identify you at which point your life is at risk or a jail term without a trial. That's what those people face in China.

abc-xyz 6y ago

> our Twitter and Facebook Aren’t you a CCP member? (Sorry in advance if you take offense to me assuming your nationality and political allegiance based on your comment history.)

codekansas 6y ago

Do you have a more reliable source than this website? I worked on content moderation at Facebook for several years, I highly doubt that the accounts were deleted because of government pressure