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There's a WWDC app for every platform, except for the Mac. After all the fuss over Project Catalyst/Marzipan last WWDC, it does not inspire confidence if you c

There's a WWDC app for every platform, except for the Mac. After all the fuss over Project Catalyst/Marzipan last WWDC, it does not inspire confidence if you cannot even bother to port this to Mac. Just an observation, it doesn't matter to me personally.

aspenmayer 6y ago
I think Safari natively supports the functionality that the apps provide in-browser.
- jtdev 6y ago
  So why build an app? iOS/iPadOS users have Safari too.
  - aspenmayer 6y ago
    Short answer: iOS Safari isn’t macOS Safari. Not sure if a more recent document like this exists to explain differences between the two. https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/technotes/tn2010/tn2262/_index.html https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/technotes/tn2010...
    - kirb 6y ago
      That document is definitely very out of date, I don’t think any of it is even relevant any more. The unsupported features listed were implemented a long time ago. Safari does handle mouse events (e.g. hover) as best as those concepts translate to a touch platform. On iPadOS 13 it actually goes as far as pretending to be a Mac. Developers have resorted to using hacky client-side detection such as checking for touch support to determine if they’re on an actual Mac, or an iPad pretending to be a Mac. (https://stackoverflow.com/a/58064750 https://stackoverflow.com/a/58064750) Pretty much they don’t want you to treat iPad as a big iPhone, but if they can pull that off with iPad, it implies both iPad and iPhone Safari is a desktop-class browser with almost complete feature parity.
jtdev 6y ago
Noticed that as well... It’s disappointing.
pilsetnieks 6y ago
> Every platform except the Mac You make it sound like there are apps for Windows, Linux, and Android, and anything else. There's just an iOS app, and it's there because the WWDC app for iOS has been there for years, especially useful in a physical conference where you're bringing your mobile device with you. For real computers, a website is just fine. And they probably don't care much about Android anyway.
- chowderhead 6y ago
  I should have said every device, not platform. The website is fine. I'm sure it's fine on iOS, too. But it was supposed to be simple to port iOS apps to MacOS, and they didn't bother with their own developer conference app, if only for the reason to lead by example.
  - pilsetnieks 6y ago
    Instead, my question is why are they even featuring a mobile app so prominently at all for a remote conference.
    - sjwright 6y ago
      Inertia, most probably. (And it’ll probably be a better, snappier experience than the website on mobile.)
  - rblatz 6y ago
    But why even build a native app even if it is easy? It adds no value, and is another thing to test. The web experience is fine for this.
    - jdminhbg 6y ago
      Sure, but the same could be said for iPadOS and iOS which have native clients.
Operyl 6y ago
Rambo made an unofficial one: https://wwdc.io/ https://wwdc.io/
zffr 6y ago
There's no official one, but this one is pretty good: https://wwdc.io https://wwdc.io

aspenmayer 6y ago

I think Safari natively supports the functionality that the apps provide in-browser.

jtdev 6y ago
So why build an app? iOS/iPadOS users have Safari too.
- aspenmayer 6y ago
  Short answer: iOS Safari isn’t macOS Safari. Not sure if a more recent document like this exists to explain differences between the two. https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/technotes/tn2010/tn2262/_index.html https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/technotes/tn2010...
  - kirb 6y ago
    That document is definitely very out of date, I don’t think any of it is even relevant any more. The unsupported features listed were implemented a long time ago. Safari does handle mouse events (e.g. hover) as best as those concepts translate to a touch platform. On iPadOS 13 it actually goes as far as pretending to be a Mac. Developers have resorted to using hacky client-side detection such as checking for touch support to determine if they’re on an actual Mac, or an iPad pretending to be a Mac. (https://stackoverflow.com/a/58064750 https://stackoverflow.com/a/58064750) Pretty much they don’t want you to treat iPad as a big iPhone, but if they can pull that off with iPad, it implies both iPad and iPhone Safari is a desktop-class browser with almost complete feature parity.

jtdev 6y ago

Noticed that as well... It’s disappointing.

pilsetnieks 6y ago

> Every platform except the Mac You make it sound like there are apps for Windows, Linux, and Android, and anything else. There's just an iOS app, and it's there because the WWDC app for iOS has been there for years, especially useful in a physical conference where you're bringing your mobile device with you. For real computers, a website is just fine. And they probably don't care much about Android anyway.

chowderhead 6y ago
I should have said every device, not platform. The website is fine. I'm sure it's fine on iOS, too. But it was supposed to be simple to port iOS apps to MacOS, and they didn't bother with their own developer conference app, if only for the reason to lead by example.
- pilsetnieks 6y ago
  Instead, my question is why are they even featuring a mobile app so prominently at all for a remote conference.
  - sjwright 6y ago
    Inertia, most probably. (And it’ll probably be a better, snappier experience than the website on mobile.)
- rblatz 6y ago
  But why even build a native app even if it is easy? It adds no value, and is another thing to test. The web experience is fine for this.
  - jdminhbg 6y ago
    Sure, but the same could be said for iPadOS and iOS which have native clients.

Operyl 6y ago

Rambo made an unofficial one: https://wwdc.io/ https://wwdc.io/

zffr 6y ago

There's no official one, but this one is pretty good: https://wwdc.io https://wwdc.io