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Interesting points. I disagree with one of the points that argues Apple should favor the “real apps,” which I assume refer to native iOS apps. Users don’t care

Interesting points. I disagree with one of the points that argues Apple should favor the “real apps,” which I assume refer to native iOS apps. Users don’t care what stack developers use as long as the product does its job and developers for sure want to reach as many users as possible regardless of what platform they are on. Also, companies with more resources will be better positioned than indie developers to make native apps for multiple platforms, so it wouldn’t benefit the author too. So who really benefits from this?

fastball 6y ago
Also worth noting that Steve Jobs' original plan for the iPhone involved making web-apps first class citizens, with access to system notifications, etc.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  Push notifications were introduced after the iPhone SDK, weren't they?
  - fastball 6y ago
    Yes?
- toasterlovin 6y ago
  Also worth noting that Steve didn't want to make the iPod available on Windows. Sometimes the guy was just dead wrong...
  - stuartd 6y ago
    [flippant] Even Christ stumbled
dceddia 6y ago
Pretty much the only time I care about whether an app is “native” or not is when I have to update it. The CapitalOne app is awful about this. Every month or two (which is roughly how often I open the thing), it requires an update. Not a suggestion. Not coming soon. Refuses to login without updating first. The download is 375mb. Three Hundred and Seventy-Five Megabytes, for an app to display credit card balances and pay them. It’s a nice app. Really it is. But forcing a 375mb download every month or two is extremely frustrating when I just wanted to check a balance real quick.
wilshipley 6y ago
I argue it’s in Apple’s interest to support native developers or there will soon not be any third-party software that’s exclusive to Apple, which is NOT in their interest. I’m appealing to their pocketbook. -W

fastball 6y ago

Also worth noting that Steve Jobs' original plan for the iPhone involved making web-apps first class citizens, with access to system notifications, etc.

saagarjha 6y ago
Push notifications were introduced after the iPhone SDK, weren't they?
- fastball 6y ago
  Yes?
toasterlovin 6y ago
Also worth noting that Steve didn't want to make the iPod available on Windows. Sometimes the guy was just dead wrong...
- stuartd 6y ago
  [flippant] Even Christ stumbled

dceddia 6y ago

Pretty much the only time I care about whether an app is “native” or not is when I have to update it. The CapitalOne app is awful about this. Every month or two (which is roughly how often I open the thing), it requires an update. Not a suggestion. Not coming soon. Refuses to login without updating first. The download is 375mb. Three Hundred and Seventy-Five Megabytes, for an app to display credit card balances and pay them. It’s a nice app. Really it is. But forcing a 375mb download every month or two is extremely frustrating when I just wanted to check a balance real quick.

wilshipley 6y ago

I argue it’s in Apple’s interest to support native developers or there will soon not be any third-party software that’s exclusive to Apple, which is NOT in their interest. I’m appealing to their pocketbook. -W