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> Them being defective is a problem we can only address by making mental health services more available not by fixing imaginary social problems. I feel like 10

> Them being defective is a problem we can only address by making mental health services more available not by fixing imaginary social problems. I feel like 100% of your comments in this thread could be applied to any current social justice protests and they would be just as out of place, but you'd get shot down. There are studies, there's data, but for you it appears being able to imagine other reasons has more weight, and the studies get waved away with as "imaginary social problems". Why the hate?

michaelmrose 6y ago
Incel communities absent moderation devolve quickly into hate for women, imaginary "facts", and veneration for acts of terrorism and murder. Those who promote the same fake facts as say the kkk but don't directly call for lynching arouse the same visceral reaction if you recognize the similarities. It is exactly like visiting a white supremacist online community with a different target population.
- luckylion 6y ago
  > Incel communities absent moderation devolve quickly into hate for women, imaginary "facts", and veneration for acts of terrorism and murder. Right, right, but nothing like that has happened here, yet you've imagined, shall we say, alternative facts as possible explanations of what has been scientifically studied. Why? > It is exactly like visiting a white supremacist online community with a different target population. To be honest, you sound like one, only with a slightly different perspective. They'd replace "incel" with "nigger" and spout pretty much the same stuff. If you showed them studies on police violence, they'd say "Maybe that isn't real and many in fact are just criminals", making up some random thing that may or may not explain something (without offering any statistics, of course, and ignoring statistics that suggest the opposite) and speak of "imaginary social issues".
  - hypewatch 6y ago
    > Right, right, but nothing like that has happened here Eliot Rodger, 2014 - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings I was a student at UCSB at the time. He killed one of my good friends. He was a hardcore incel before it was a thing. Many incel communities praise this monster.

michaelmrose 6y ago

Incel communities absent moderation devolve quickly into hate for women, imaginary "facts", and veneration for acts of terrorism and murder. Those who promote the same fake facts as say the kkk but don't directly call for lynching arouse the same visceral reaction if you recognize the similarities. It is exactly like visiting a white supremacist online community with a different target population.

luckylion 6y ago
> Incel communities absent moderation devolve quickly into hate for women, imaginary "facts", and veneration for acts of terrorism and murder. Right, right, but nothing like that has happened here, yet you've imagined, shall we say, alternative facts as possible explanations of what has been scientifically studied. Why? > It is exactly like visiting a white supremacist online community with a different target population. To be honest, you sound like one, only with a slightly different perspective. They'd replace "incel" with "nigger" and spout pretty much the same stuff. If you showed them studies on police violence, they'd say "Maybe that isn't real and many in fact are just criminals", making up some random thing that may or may not explain something (without offering any statistics, of course, and ignoring statistics that suggest the opposite) and speak of "imaginary social issues".
- hypewatch 6y ago
  > Right, right, but nothing like that has happened here Eliot Rodger, 2014 - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings I was a student at UCSB at the time. He killed one of my good friends. He was a hardcore incel before it was a thing. Many incel communities praise this monster.