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This is easily the most depressing thread I've ever encountered on HN. Women aren't sleeping with men because we know this is what you all really think of us.

This is easily the most depressing thread I've ever encountered on HN. Women aren't sleeping with men because we know this is what you all really think of us. I'm not interested in someone with such levels of disdain for my entire gender.

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Buttons840 6y ago
> Women aren't sleeping with men because... The data showed that women are sleeping with men. It says: "Sexual activity was largely unchanged among unmarried women".
- doorstar 6y ago
  I correct myself - women aren't sleeping with men to the degree that men would prefer. And if most of the 300 comments in this thread are to be believed, it's because women will only throw themselves wantonly at high earners. Men just need wait long enough so that women's biology will force them to lower their standards. You guys really don't like us do you?
  - newguy1234 6y ago
    Most men are going for the 18-25 year old group simply as a matter of preference. We aren't interested in women that are "waiting to lower their standards". So as a man, you figure out what that age group wants and then you try to get it.
    - doorstar 6y ago
      > Most men are going for the 18-25 year old group simply as a matter of preference. Yes, that's why we don't want to sleep with them. We have a inexplicable dislike for men who are interested in our age first and everything else second. > We aren't interested in women that are "waiting to lower their standards" Good because they only exist in men's minds as a sad excuse. > So as a man, you figure out what that age group wants and then you try to get it. No one in any age group wants you.
      - Buttons840 6y ago
        > No one in any age group wants you. Speak of a depressing thread and it shall appear.
  - fdsgnr0g90n0fw 6y ago
    >You guys really don't like us do you? I won't speak for other men, only for myself. Growing up my idea of what a normal relationship look like was 60% not telling the truth, and 40% of bracing yourself for a fight of some kind if you did tell the truth. Sometimes it ended with just angry words but sometimes it escalated. Thing was, if that was what having a partner looks like, to be more terrified about coming home then hiding at school or work where you were treated with far more respect, then what was the point? So it's not about disliking women or expecting sex. It's the idea of intimacy with anyone that's horrific to me. Being older now I realize that perhaps what I saw growing up probably isn't what it's supposed to be. But what is it supposed to look like if not that? How am I supposed to act as a partner? What should I be expecting? And neither answers the question of what the point is. Or whether it is worth the risk of dropping your guard. At this point in my life I don't think I'll ever find the answer, I'm far too old now. And with today's availability of baubles wanting attention, even if it's an unfulfilling or unhappy life, there's enough distraction to keep one's mind off of any of that. I don't know if there's anyone else out there that's like this, but I'd be very surprised if my life's story was the only one like this in the world. Hope this helps gives a little perspective for you.
    - doorstar 6y ago
      I know I'm answering late but I'd like to respond. I appreciate your perspective, and I'm going to ask you to take another look at it. How much of what you've written is gender-specific? Only the first sentence identifies your gender. A lot of women could have written something almost identical. This is not about one gender vs. another. This is a human condition of trying and failing to find close relationships.
jgwil2 6y ago
This is unfortunately par for the course whenever sex and dating come up on HN.
- doorstar 6y ago
  I trick myself into thinking that it's only the 14 year olds on reddit who think this way, that they'll grow out of it. I should know better.
deathgrips 6y ago
Does this mean that women don't date men with misogynistic beliefs or habits?
- mD5pPxMcS6fVWKE 6y ago
  They sure do. See: Trump.

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Buttons840 6y ago

> Women aren't sleeping with men because... The data showed that women are sleeping with men. It says: "Sexual activity was largely unchanged among unmarried women".

doorstar 6y ago
I correct myself - women aren't sleeping with men to the degree that men would prefer. And if most of the 300 comments in this thread are to be believed, it's because women will only throw themselves wantonly at high earners. Men just need wait long enough so that women's biology will force them to lower their standards. You guys really don't like us do you?
- newguy1234 6y ago
  Most men are going for the 18-25 year old group simply as a matter of preference. We aren't interested in women that are "waiting to lower their standards". So as a man, you figure out what that age group wants and then you try to get it.
  - doorstar 6y ago
    > Most men are going for the 18-25 year old group simply as a matter of preference. Yes, that's why we don't want to sleep with them. We have a inexplicable dislike for men who are interested in our age first and everything else second. > We aren't interested in women that are "waiting to lower their standards" Good because they only exist in men's minds as a sad excuse. > So as a man, you figure out what that age group wants and then you try to get it. No one in any age group wants you.
    - Buttons840 6y ago
      > No one in any age group wants you. Speak of a depressing thread and it shall appear.
- fdsgnr0g90n0fw 6y ago
  >You guys really don't like us do you? I won't speak for other men, only for myself. Growing up my idea of what a normal relationship look like was 60% not telling the truth, and 40% of bracing yourself for a fight of some kind if you did tell the truth. Sometimes it ended with just angry words but sometimes it escalated. Thing was, if that was what having a partner looks like, to be more terrified about coming home then hiding at school or work where you were treated with far more respect, then what was the point? So it's not about disliking women or expecting sex. It's the idea of intimacy with anyone that's horrific to me. Being older now I realize that perhaps what I saw growing up probably isn't what it's supposed to be. But what is it supposed to look like if not that? How am I supposed to act as a partner? What should I be expecting? And neither answers the question of what the point is. Or whether it is worth the risk of dropping your guard. At this point in my life I don't think I'll ever find the answer, I'm far too old now. And with today's availability of baubles wanting attention, even if it's an unfulfilling or unhappy life, there's enough distraction to keep one's mind off of any of that. I don't know if there's anyone else out there that's like this, but I'd be very surprised if my life's story was the only one like this in the world. Hope this helps gives a little perspective for you.
  - doorstar 6y ago
    I know I'm answering late but I'd like to respond. I appreciate your perspective, and I'm going to ask you to take another look at it. How much of what you've written is gender-specific? Only the first sentence identifies your gender. A lot of women could have written something almost identical. This is not about one gender vs. another. This is a human condition of trying and failing to find close relationships.

jgwil2 6y ago

This is unfortunately par for the course whenever sex and dating come up on HN.

doorstar 6y ago
I trick myself into thinking that it's only the 14 year olds on reddit who think this way, that they'll grow out of it. I should know better.

deathgrips 6y ago

Does this mean that women don't date men with misogynistic beliefs or habits?

mD5pPxMcS6fVWKE 6y ago
They sure do. See: Trump.