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https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51900848-based-deleuze https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51900848-based-deleuze for anyone interested. The reviews don't s

by orf 6y ago

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51900848-based-deleuze https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51900848-based-deleuze for anyone interested. The reviews don't seem great, for what it's worth. And from a guy who tweets > "Not even being provocative but if you think Greta Thunberg has the maturity to guide global policy-making then you cannot object to Jeffrey Epstein paying 16-year-olds for sex." and gives courses on "how to be an intellectual". 1. https://twitter.com/jmrphy/status/1176703990056267777?lang=en https://twitter.com/jmrphy/status/1176703990056267777?lang=e...

Barrin92 6y ago
Oh this is Justin Murphy. He got some attention in the British press when he was kicked out of academia for a whole slew of public statements (https://thetab.com/uk/soton/2018/10/02/southampton-uni-launch-investigation-into-professor-who-compared-abortion-to-necrophilia-74712 https://thetab.com/uk/soton/2018/10/02/southampton-uni-launc...) he seems to have attempted to turn that into a sort of career by the looks of it
- hopfscotch3 6y ago
  And I wish him nothing but the worst.
prvc 6y ago
He doesn't appear to be taking a position affirming or denying either the antecedent or consequent propositions in that tweet; he merely states a relationship between them.
- orf 6y ago
  Yes, there is clearly a relationship between thinking “Greta has an opinion on climate change that I agree with” and “pedophiles are ok”. I’m glad that he brings this valued point to the discussion and I’m thankful someone so impartial brings this up during the very important “Agree with scientific consensus on climate change == agree with pedophillia” debate.
  - StavrosK 6y ago
    > I’m thankful someone so impartial brings this up during the very important “Agree with scientific consensus on climate change == agree with pedophillia” debate. I mean, his point was fallacious in more than one ways, but we should always debate against the strongest possible interpretation of the other side's argument. Straw men are so easy to knock down that there isn't even much value in doing so.
- tunesmith 6y ago
  > he merely states a relationship between them "a" relationship? It was an if/then relationship! That's hardly an amorphous undefined relationship! The if/then is the objectionable part! Man, sometimes abstract thinking gets really silly.
devwastaken 6y ago
I figure the author is here so 1. Maturity doesn't equal consent. 2. Even if legal, consent does not equal lack of manipulation 3. It's attacking a strawman, and is inherently provocative. Provocative doesn't have to mean wrong, but in this case it fails on it's premise. It's concerning to me the author doesn't have a basic understanding of why underage laws exist. It doesn't mean that anyone underage can't make mature decisions. It's there because it's a time ripe for abuse in a manner that's difficult to prove. Without getting very realistic, dark, and entirely off topic I can't go into details, but there are very good reasons why that exists. It doesn't mean they can't not be trusted to drive, or handle money, or whatever. There isn't a relation.
- orf 6y ago
  > It's concerning to me the author doesn't have a basic understanding of why underage laws exist. I think he does, he is not stupid. I guess he just wanted attention and tweets like that play well into his base, who might not have the same understanding.
- entropyneur 6y ago
  > It doesn't mean that anyone underage can't make mature decisions. It's there because it's a time ripe for abuse in a manner that's difficult to prove. I am unable to see the contradiction. If Greta was indeed guiding global policy (which she's not even remotely close to doing) there would exist very strong incentive to manipulate her and the aggregate potential harm would greatly exceed that of a single instance of child abuse. It's indeed a total strawman on the face of it, but I think the actual point he's making is that forbidden thoughts exists and the replies on Twitter are a proof of that point imo.
- bondarchuk 6y ago
  You are replying to inflammatory twitter bait in a reply to not-the-tweeter on hacker news. Seriously, also @orf, why take this here? Clearly the impulse to reflexively argue about this is too big to handle for some. Go do this on twitter where you copied it from.
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rootusrootus 6y ago
The biggest problem with his Greta Thunberg comment is that he started it with a lie. He did say it to be provocative. There are other ways he could have made the same point without being offensive, but then it would have been an uncontroversial opinion.
jowday 6y ago
Most of Murphy's discourse around "how to be an intellectual" focuses on how to support yourself financially and build an audience or platform while doing work that traditionally relied on support from academic institutions, not "how to be smart" or anything like that. Most of Murphy's actual intellectual work seems slapshod, but his efforts to figure out how to essentially do academic work outside of academia are interesting and seem to be in good faith. I don't get the same vibe from his as I get from alt-light or alt-right "Anti-academics". He doesn't spend an inordinate amount of time lambasting colleges for restricting free speech or supporting Marxists or any of the other standard talking points.
centimeter 6y ago
Looks like many of the reviews are from people who didn't even read it but want to cancel the author.
hopfscotch2 6y ago
Sick shit. Mods remove this post. This guy deserves no attention. Really he deserves much worse...
post_below 6y ago
After reading the post article (which was interesting), that tweet fits his MO, which seems to be "convert words into money without particular concern for quality or value". I doubt he actually believes the two things are comparable, rather he knows there's the right mix of pseudo logic and gratuitous drama to appeal to his target demographic.

by orf 6y ago

Barrin92 6y ago

Oh this is Justin Murphy. He got some attention in the British press when he was kicked out of academia for a whole slew of public statements (https://thetab.com/uk/soton/2018/10/02/southampton-uni-launch-investigation-into-professor-who-compared-abortion-to-necrophilia-74712 https://thetab.com/uk/soton/2018/10/02/southampton-uni-launc...) he seems to have attempted to turn that into a sort of career by the looks of it

hopfscotch3 6y ago
And I wish him nothing but the worst.

prvc 6y ago

He doesn't appear to be taking a position affirming or denying either the antecedent or consequent propositions in that tweet; he merely states a relationship between them.

orf 6y ago
Yes, there is clearly a relationship between thinking “Greta has an opinion on climate change that I agree with” and “pedophiles are ok”. I’m glad that he brings this valued point to the discussion and I’m thankful someone so impartial brings this up during the very important “Agree with scientific consensus on climate change == agree with pedophillia” debate.
- StavrosK 6y ago
  > I’m thankful someone so impartial brings this up during the very important “Agree with scientific consensus on climate change == agree with pedophillia” debate. I mean, his point was fallacious in more than one ways, but we should always debate against the strongest possible interpretation of the other side's argument. Straw men are so easy to knock down that there isn't even much value in doing so.
tunesmith 6y ago
> he merely states a relationship between them "a" relationship? It was an if/then relationship! That's hardly an amorphous undefined relationship! The if/then is the objectionable part! Man, sometimes abstract thinking gets really silly.

devwastaken 6y ago

I figure the author is here so 1. Maturity doesn't equal consent. 2. Even if legal, consent does not equal lack of manipulation 3. It's attacking a strawman, and is inherently provocative. Provocative doesn't have to mean wrong, but in this case it fails on it's premise. It's concerning to me the author doesn't have a basic understanding of why underage laws exist. It doesn't mean that anyone underage can't make mature decisions. It's there because it's a time ripe for abuse in a manner that's difficult to prove. Without getting very realistic, dark, and entirely off topic I can't go into details, but there are very good reasons why that exists. It doesn't mean they can't not be trusted to drive, or handle money, or whatever. There isn't a relation.

orf 6y ago
> It's concerning to me the author doesn't have a basic understanding of why underage laws exist. I think he does, he is not stupid. I guess he just wanted attention and tweets like that play well into his base, who might not have the same understanding.
entropyneur 6y ago
> It doesn't mean that anyone underage can't make mature decisions. It's there because it's a time ripe for abuse in a manner that's difficult to prove. I am unable to see the contradiction. If Greta was indeed guiding global policy (which she's not even remotely close to doing) there would exist very strong incentive to manipulate her and the aggregate potential harm would greatly exceed that of a single instance of child abuse. It's indeed a total strawman on the face of it, but I think the actual point he's making is that forbidden thoughts exists and the replies on Twitter are a proof of that point imo.
bondarchuk 6y ago
You are replying to inflammatory twitter bait in a reply to not-the-tweeter on hacker news. Seriously, also @orf, why take this here? Clearly the impulse to reflexively argue about this is too big to handle for some. Go do this on twitter where you copied it from.
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rootusrootus 6y ago

The biggest problem with his Greta Thunberg comment is that he started it with a lie. He did say it to be provocative. There are other ways he could have made the same point without being offensive, but then it would have been an uncontroversial opinion.

jowday 6y ago

Most of Murphy's discourse around "how to be an intellectual" focuses on how to support yourself financially and build an audience or platform while doing work that traditionally relied on support from academic institutions, not "how to be smart" or anything like that. Most of Murphy's actual intellectual work seems slapshod, but his efforts to figure out how to essentially do academic work outside of academia are interesting and seem to be in good faith. I don't get the same vibe from his as I get from alt-light or alt-right "Anti-academics". He doesn't spend an inordinate amount of time lambasting colleges for restricting free speech or supporting Marxists or any of the other standard talking points.

centimeter 6y ago

Looks like many of the reviews are from people who didn't even read it but want to cancel the author.

hopfscotch2 6y ago

Sick shit. Mods remove this post. This guy deserves no attention. Really he deserves much worse...

post_below 6y ago

After reading the post article (which was interesting), that tweet fits his MO, which seems to be "convert words into money without particular concern for quality or value". I doubt he actually believes the two things are comparable, rather he knows there's the right mix of pseudo logic and gratuitous drama to appeal to his target demographic.