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Show HN: Senior Remote Jobs via Telegram

49 points by xoelop 6y ago

wackget 6y ago
Why Telegram? You're instantly limiting your audience to those who use it, or who have the desire/energy/inclination to install it. Why not post this information somewhere where it's actually accessible? And are you affiliated to these jobs in any way? Do you have a commercial interest in them?
- xoelop 6y ago
  You're right. This is just an MVP tho, I'll probably create email newsletters for the people that don't use Telegram soon.
  - nogabebop23 6y ago
    so you're dead-set on extracting "something" of value from me before offering any compelling reason tor me to do so? Seems limiting...
    - xoelop 6y ago
      Why would you say so? Joining the Telegram channels is free, and creating an email alert at https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true#basic-plan https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true#basic-plan is free as well If you're in financial trouble somehow or can't afford the paid plan on FindMeGigs that sends you all the jobs, DM on Twitter (https://twitter.com/xoelipedes https://twitter.com/xoelipedes) and I'll give you a free unlimited account for free.
      - bluntfang 6y ago
        why are you so dead set on thinking having to sign up for a platform is something that people will do specifically for your service?
      - zcrackerz 6y ago
        I hate to pile on, but you're putting up a lot of barriers that are going to discourage casual viewers. I don't want to sign up for some app I won't use for anything else. I don't want to give out my email. I definitely don't want to pay for anything. Maybe I'm not your target market, but this is going to be a hard pass for many people.
        eitland 6y ago
        I know people here like to hate Telegram but it is extremely common in certain areas and groups. Why not WhatsApp or Signal then? None of them has a working public API as far as I know.
        xoelop 6y ago
        The WhatsApp API is not as open as Telegram's, you have to apply and pay and so on AFAIK. IDK about signal but feels even more nichey than Telegram. I want to focus on doing one channel well than then expand to others
        eitland 6y ago
        I think we agree and my wording was a but clumsy. Sorry for that.
- lordofgibbons 6y ago
  I appreciate OP posting these jobs, but when I tried to install the Telegram app, it wants access to manage my phone app to verify my number. No thanks.
  - xoelop 6y ago
    Ah, I'm sorry. You can also receive the same jobs via email creating an alert at https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true (it shares the backend with the Telegram channels)
    - harrisreynolds 6y ago
      The findmegigs site is even more hostile than the original in terms of not being able to see jobs. These sites may work for you, but I am annoyed I wasted my time even clicking the links. No instant value means you'll miss a large segment of users.
      - xoelop 6y ago
        Thanks for your feedback, I agree with you in that if you're not on Telegram it's hard to know what to expect. I'll try to improve that in the future.
  - ComodoHacker 6y ago
    You can safely deny this and other permissions. It behaves nicely.
- xoelop 6y ago
  And no, I'm not affiliated with any of the jobs. I find them on Twitter and then parse the original URLs to get more info about each one BTW, if you're not on Telegram you can also receive the same jobs via email creating an alert at https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true (it shares the backend with the Telegram channels)
- ISL 6y ago
  Is there a reason that HTML doesn't work for a job board?
  - xoelop 6y ago
    It does, but it's hard to differentiate yourself making yet-another-remote-jobs-job-board, especially if you're not on distribution already (like I wasn't). I think Telegram is an interesting distribution channel that let me connect directly with people (instead them having to come to a site) I'll make open newsletters in the future as well, for the people that are not on Telegram. Thanks for your comment! :D
    - kevinzg 6y ago
      An RSS feed would be cool.
xoelop 6y ago
Hey HN! Some months ago I made a bot to find remote jobs for myself. Now I made a product of it and it posts jobs to 50+ Telegram channels, with more than 1500 users in total It's focused in getting high-quality, senior-only remote roles If you're not on Telegram, you can also get the same jobs via email creating an alert at https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true (it shares the backend with the Telegram channels) Would love to hear what you think! Xoel
- mch82 6y ago
  Curious how you decided to use Telegram for this. Seems like a neat idea. Don’t know if Telegram lets you edit old posts, but would be nice to see if a job has been filled.
  - jfk13 6y ago
    Neat idea? I'm not sure. Why isn't it simply a web page?
    - xoelop 6y ago
      I like the possibility of reaching people directly, instead of them having to visit a web page. If you're not on Telegram, I forgot to mention before that you can also get the same jobs creating an alert at https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true (it shares the backend with the Telegram channels)
      - nogabebop23 6y ago
        >> I like the possibility of reaching people directly, instead of them having to visit a web page. I don't follow - wouldn't a reguilar web page be the most direct way to communicate? Everything else is an added barrier, or do you mean 1-on-1 direct?
      - jfk13 6y ago
        Hmm, glancing at the screenshots at https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true#plans https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true#plans, it seems that it's not always very good at distinguishing jobs offered from jobs wanted in people's twitter posts.
polysaturate 6y ago
Is there no way to browse this information in the browser? Not saying I am anti-Telegram, but I have never used it, nor know how it works.
- cryptoz 6y ago
  Curious about this as well. The desktop download links time out for me, so, I'll try getting the app on my phone I guess. Would be great to see this on desktop/web somehow. Edit: App requires SMS auth, but the phone I'm trying this on has no SIM card. Oh well.
  - xoelop 6y ago
    Ah, that's a bummer! I'll probably create weekly newsletters soon with the same content, I thought Telegram was quite extended in the tech community but apparently not. I'll post it here when the newsletters are ready In the meantime, you can receive the same jobs via email creating an alert at https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true (it shares the backend with the Telegram channels)
- xoelop 6y ago
  Hi! Definitely, I'll consider doing this soon. I like Telegram because it lets me reach people directly without them having to come to my site. But it's true that a lot of people don't use it and I'm missing out on them. I'll probably create email newsletters soon for the people that are not on Telegram. Thanks!
  - AlchemistCamp 6y ago
    > I'll probably create email newsletters soon for the people that are not on Telegram. Why not a website? It seems like that's what everyone is asking for.
baccredited 6y ago
Hey - I like the telegram choice for this. I know you are getting some questions about it but I prefer it actually. Not everything needs to be on the web, indexed, and archived forever.
- nogabebop23 6y ago
  >> Not everything needs to be on the web, indexed, and archived forever. Any particular reason this shouldn't be the default state for information though? It would seem that any sort of task that benefits society as a whole is made significantly harder by not making things web-based, accessible and durable. If this is "senrio jobs for telegram users" that's different. I'm not getting that message though.
bdcravens 6y ago
Is it "noice" (the colloquialism) or "no ICE" (ideological)?
- mrspeaker 6y ago
  Well seeing as the page title is NoiceJobs and the giant heading on the page says NoiceJobs, I'd assume it was the colloquialism, bcd ravens. - from mr speaker / mrs peaker.
  - xoelop 6y ago
    Haha yeah, noice ~ nice :)
tonetheman 6y ago
This might be a good idea. But telegram limits it. Others have said that too, just adding my voice.
- xoelop 6y ago
  Fair point. I'll make free, open email newsletters in the futures. If you want to create an email alert to get the same jobs, I also created https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true#basic-plan https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true#basic-plan and it's working already (230 subscribers as of now)
xoelop 6y ago
Hey! OP here. It's one of my first posts here so wasn't quite sure about the title. This links to Telegram channels, so you need to be on Telegram - even tho you can also create an email alert at https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true#basic-plan https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true#basic-plan to get the same jobs Do you think that something like 'Show HN: Senior Remote Jobs on Telegram' would have been a better title? Thanks!
- sethammons 6y ago
  Probably. I don't even know what telegram is and I'm a senior developer who works remotely. I'm def not installing anything. Also, quick question: "OC here" -- I thought "OC" meant "original content" and is used often on reddit because of so many reposts. Is there a different meaning?
  - xoelop 6y ago
    Sorry, I meant OP. I'm the guy that's developing this thing, that's what I meant. Sorry for the confusion
- gwbas1c 6y ago
  What is Telegram and why should I use it? I'm an unemployed senior developer; your exact target audience! Pretty much 90% of the time someone wants me to install (or sign up for) some "thing," it's just some kind of gimmick or has no traction. This is especially the case as a senior developer, where part of my job is healthy skepticism for software I've never heard of. So, IMO, the biggest challenge is communicating what Telegram is and convincing me that I should use it. (That doesn't mean using Telegram is wrong; but when you're using something so new that no one's heard of it, you need to take ownership of promoting it.)
  - xoelop 6y ago
    Hi! Telegram has quite some traction with over 200M MAU, but you have a good point. I've made over 50 channels for different roles, from C-Level stuff like CTO, CPO positions to very language-specific channels like Rust, Haskell or React. What I like the most about how I've structured it is that (once you're on Telegram) it's very easy to explore the different channels because they're linked to each other and there's very little friction to join or leave a channel
brtkdotse 6y ago
This category of “niche job board” seems to be the new get-rich-fast (or rather, collect-emails-fast) scheme du jour. Over the last few months there’s been remote jobs, jobs that don’t require a car degree, jobs for a specific tech... the space is quickly becoming inflated
- ravenstine 6y ago
  I'm not exactly sure what's wrong with that. Getting rich quick is kinda what motivates people to create things, good and bad. ;) Get rich by tech schemes are only bad when an idea has been tried enough times to prove that it isn't valuable without significant differentiation.
- xoelop 6y ago
  I'm not sure you can get and stay rich long-term without adding value to the world, but thanks for the comment I agree with you that seems like there's a new remote jobs board every 2 days popping out. That's why I took a different approach with this, and it went from 0 unique subscribers 1 month ago to 1700+ today, over the 50+ different channels that I created within it. Hopefully they're getting something useful out of it!
  - brtkdotse 6y ago
    Sorry if my comment sounded harsh, that wasn’t my intention! Good job finding a niche and running with it!
    - xoelop 6y ago
      No problem, thanks for saying that!
sub7 6y ago
I'd suggest building a sign up flow that captures info about candidates. The thing that's valuable here isn't your curation or the jobs, it's the candidates.
tiborsaas 6y ago
> Don't have telegram? I don't even have a smartphone, it's in the repair shop for 30+ days now :)
draw_down 6y ago
I don't think it's appropriate to link to something like this on this website. Then again I also don't think it's appropriate to link to paywalled things, and we seem OK with that. But to me, if people can't actually read or look at the thing you're linking to, there is no point.
datavirtue 6y ago
Senior == two or three years of experience? LOL

49 points by xoelop 6y ago

Why Telegram? You're instantly limiting your audience to those who use it, or who have the desire/energy/inclination to install it. Why not post this information somewhere where it's actually accessible? And are you affiliated to these jobs in any way? Do you have a commercial interest in them?

xoelop 6y ago
You're right. This is just an MVP tho, I'll probably create email newsletters for the people that don't use Telegram soon.
- nogabebop23 6y ago
  so you're dead-set on extracting "something" of value from me before offering any compelling reason tor me to do so? Seems limiting...
  - xoelop 6y ago
    Why would you say so? Joining the Telegram channels is free, and creating an email alert at https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true#basic-plan https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true#basic-plan is free as well If you're in financial trouble somehow or can't afford the paid plan on FindMeGigs that sends you all the jobs, DM on Twitter (https://twitter.com/xoelipedes https://twitter.com/xoelipedes) and I'll give you a free unlimited account for free.
    - bluntfang 6y ago
      why are you so dead set on thinking having to sign up for a platform is something that people will do specifically for your service?
    - zcrackerz 6y ago
      I hate to pile on, but you're putting up a lot of barriers that are going to discourage casual viewers. I don't want to sign up for some app I won't use for anything else. I don't want to give out my email. I definitely don't want to pay for anything. Maybe I'm not your target market, but this is going to be a hard pass for many people.
      - eitland 6y ago
        I know people here like to hate Telegram but it is extremely common in certain areas and groups. Why not WhatsApp or Signal then? None of them has a working public API as far as I know.
        xoelop 6y ago
        The WhatsApp API is not as open as Telegram's, you have to apply and pay and so on AFAIK. IDK about signal but feels even more nichey than Telegram. I want to focus on doing one channel well than then expand to others
        eitland 6y ago
        I think we agree and my wording was a but clumsy. Sorry for that.
lordofgibbons 6y ago
I appreciate OP posting these jobs, but when I tried to install the Telegram app, it wants access to manage my phone app to verify my number. No thanks.
- xoelop 6y ago
  Ah, I'm sorry. You can also receive the same jobs via email creating an alert at https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true (it shares the backend with the Telegram channels)
  - harrisreynolds 6y ago
    The findmegigs site is even more hostile than the original in terms of not being able to see jobs. These sites may work for you, but I am annoyed I wasted my time even clicking the links. No instant value means you'll miss a large segment of users.
    - xoelop 6y ago
      Thanks for your feedback, I agree with you in that if you're not on Telegram it's hard to know what to expect. I'll try to improve that in the future.
- ComodoHacker 6y ago
  You can safely deny this and other permissions. It behaves nicely.
xoelop 6y ago
And no, I'm not affiliated with any of the jobs. I find them on Twitter and then parse the original URLs to get more info about each one BTW, if you're not on Telegram you can also receive the same jobs via email creating an alert at https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true (it shares the backend with the Telegram channels)
ISL 6y ago
Is there a reason that HTML doesn't work for a job board?
- xoelop 6y ago
  It does, but it's hard to differentiate yourself making yet-another-remote-jobs-job-board, especially if you're not on distribution already (like I wasn't). I think Telegram is an interesting distribution channel that let me connect directly with people (instead them having to come to a site) I'll make open newsletters in the future as well, for the people that are not on Telegram. Thanks for your comment! :D
  - kevinzg 6y ago
    An RSS feed would be cool.

xoelop 6y ago

Hey HN! Some months ago I made a bot to find remote jobs for myself. Now I made a product of it and it posts jobs to 50+ Telegram channels, with more than 1500 users in total It's focused in getting high-quality, senior-only remote roles If you're not on Telegram, you can also get the same jobs via email creating an alert at https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true (it shares the backend with the Telegram channels) Would love to hear what you think! Xoel

mch82 6y ago
Curious how you decided to use Telegram for this. Seems like a neat idea. Don’t know if Telegram lets you edit old posts, but would be nice to see if a job has been filled.
- jfk13 6y ago
  Neat idea? I'm not sure. Why isn't it simply a web page?
  - xoelop 6y ago
    I like the possibility of reaching people directly, instead of them having to visit a web page. If you're not on Telegram, I forgot to mention before that you can also get the same jobs creating an alert at https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true (it shares the backend with the Telegram channels)
    - nogabebop23 6y ago
      >> I like the possibility of reaching people directly, instead of them having to visit a web page. I don't follow - wouldn't a reguilar web page be the most direct way to communicate? Everything else is an added barrier, or do you mean 1-on-1 direct?
    - jfk13 6y ago
      Hmm, glancing at the screenshots at https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true#plans https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true#plans, it seems that it's not always very good at distinguishing jobs offered from jobs wanted in people's twitter posts.

polysaturate 6y ago

Is there no way to browse this information in the browser? Not saying I am anti-Telegram, but I have never used it, nor know how it works.

cryptoz 6y ago
Curious about this as well. The desktop download links time out for me, so, I'll try getting the app on my phone I guess. Would be great to see this on desktop/web somehow. Edit: App requires SMS auth, but the phone I'm trying this on has no SIM card. Oh well.
- xoelop 6y ago
  Ah, that's a bummer! I'll probably create weekly newsletters soon with the same content, I thought Telegram was quite extended in the tech community but apparently not. I'll post it here when the newsletters are ready In the meantime, you can receive the same jobs via email creating an alert at https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true (it shares the backend with the Telegram channels)
xoelop 6y ago
Hi! Definitely, I'll consider doing this soon. I like Telegram because it lets me reach people directly without them having to come to my site. But it's true that a lot of people don't use it and I'm missing out on them. I'll probably create email newsletters soon for the people that are not on Telegram. Thanks!
- AlchemistCamp 6y ago
  > I'll probably create email newsletters soon for the people that are not on Telegram. Why not a website? It seems like that's what everyone is asking for.

baccredited 6y ago

Hey - I like the telegram choice for this. I know you are getting some questions about it but I prefer it actually. Not everything needs to be on the web, indexed, and archived forever.

nogabebop23 6y ago
>> Not everything needs to be on the web, indexed, and archived forever. Any particular reason this shouldn't be the default state for information though? It would seem that any sort of task that benefits society as a whole is made significantly harder by not making things web-based, accessible and durable. If this is "senrio jobs for telegram users" that's different. I'm not getting that message though.

bdcravens 6y ago

Is it "noice" (the colloquialism) or "no ICE" (ideological)?

mrspeaker 6y ago
Well seeing as the page title is NoiceJobs and the giant heading on the page says NoiceJobs, I'd assume it was the colloquialism, bcd ravens. - from mr speaker / mrs peaker.
- xoelop 6y ago
  Haha yeah, noice ~ nice :)

tonetheman 6y ago

This might be a good idea. But telegram limits it. Others have said that too, just adding my voice.

xoelop 6y ago
Fair point. I'll make free, open email newsletters in the futures. If you want to create an email alert to get the same jobs, I also created https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true#basic-plan https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true#basic-plan and it's working already (230 subscribers as of now)

xoelop 6y ago

Hey! OP here. It's one of my first posts here so wasn't quite sure about the title. This links to Telegram channels, so you need to be on Telegram - even tho you can also create an email alert at https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true#basic-plan https://findmegigs.com/?remote=true#basic-plan to get the same jobs Do you think that something like 'Show HN: Senior Remote Jobs on Telegram' would have been a better title? Thanks!

sethammons 6y ago
Probably. I don't even know what telegram is and I'm a senior developer who works remotely. I'm def not installing anything. Also, quick question: "OC here" -- I thought "OC" meant "original content" and is used often on reddit because of so many reposts. Is there a different meaning?
- xoelop 6y ago
  Sorry, I meant OP. I'm the guy that's developing this thing, that's what I meant. Sorry for the confusion
gwbas1c 6y ago
What is Telegram and why should I use it? I'm an unemployed senior developer; your exact target audience! Pretty much 90% of the time someone wants me to install (or sign up for) some "thing," it's just some kind of gimmick or has no traction. This is especially the case as a senior developer, where part of my job is healthy skepticism for software I've never heard of. So, IMO, the biggest challenge is communicating what Telegram is and convincing me that I should use it. (That doesn't mean using Telegram is wrong; but when you're using something so new that no one's heard of it, you need to take ownership of promoting it.)
- xoelop 6y ago
  Hi! Telegram has quite some traction with over 200M MAU, but you have a good point. I've made over 50 channels for different roles, from C-Level stuff like CTO, CPO positions to very language-specific channels like Rust, Haskell or React. What I like the most about how I've structured it is that (once you're on Telegram) it's very easy to explore the different channels because they're linked to each other and there's very little friction to join or leave a channel

brtkdotse 6y ago

This category of “niche job board” seems to be the new get-rich-fast (or rather, collect-emails-fast) scheme du jour. Over the last few months there’s been remote jobs, jobs that don’t require a car degree, jobs for a specific tech... the space is quickly becoming inflated

ravenstine 6y ago
I'm not exactly sure what's wrong with that. Getting rich quick is kinda what motivates people to create things, good and bad. ;) Get rich by tech schemes are only bad when an idea has been tried enough times to prove that it isn't valuable without significant differentiation.
xoelop 6y ago
I'm not sure you can get and stay rich long-term without adding value to the world, but thanks for the comment I agree with you that seems like there's a new remote jobs board every 2 days popping out. That's why I took a different approach with this, and it went from 0 unique subscribers 1 month ago to 1700+ today, over the 50+ different channels that I created within it. Hopefully they're getting something useful out of it!
- brtkdotse 6y ago
  Sorry if my comment sounded harsh, that wasn’t my intention! Good job finding a niche and running with it!
  - xoelop 6y ago
    No problem, thanks for saying that!

sub7 6y ago

I'd suggest building a sign up flow that captures info about candidates. The thing that's valuable here isn't your curation or the jobs, it's the candidates.

tiborsaas 6y ago

> Don't have telegram? I don't even have a smartphone, it's in the repair shop for 30+ days now :)

draw_down 6y ago

I don't think it's appropriate to link to something like this on this website. Then again I also don't think it's appropriate to link to paywalled things, and we seem OK with that. But to me, if people can't actually read or look at the thing you're linking to, there is no point.

datavirtue 6y ago

Senior == two or three years of experience? LOL