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You're making an argument from absurdity, and you're wrong. Stanford and Harvard don't need accreditation because they are among the premiere universities on t
by jki275 6y ago
You're making an argument from absurdity, and you're wrong.
Stanford and Harvard don't need accreditation because they are among the premiere universities on the planet. Stanford is regionally accredited by the way, I'm not sure why you keep arguing they're not (your confusion is probably that they dropped their ABET accreditation in CS which is not required for CS although some universities do maintain it). Actually, now that I went back and looked it up, even Harvard is accredited, as is every other ranked university I looked up -- Carnegie Mellon is accredited, Georgia Tech is accredited, MIT is accredited.
The two things are entirely independent, you're correct -- but you're making an argument that isn't supportable in comparing the premiere universities on the planet who could, if they wanted, theoretically, eschew the concept of accreditation because they don't need to prove anything about their curriculum with a college that has nothing -- no accreditation, no reputation, nothing at all.
- chrisseaton 6y ago> and you're wrong ... even Harvard is accredited Lol you're the one who told me it wasn't! You said 'Neither does Harvard.' > Stanford and Harvard don't need accreditation because they are among the premiere universities on the planet No, they don't need accreditation because nobody cares about accreditation.
- jki275 6y agoPlease don't cut sections out of what I wrote and deceptively edit it to make it look like I said something entirely different. I said your argument is wrong and that Stanford, which you claimed was not accredited, is in fact accredited, and you are confused about what accreditation means, as ABET accreditation is not what we're talking about, but regional accreditation, which is the standard. Most CS programs are not ABET accredited and do not find it necessary. I had been told before that Harvard was not accredited and that was clearly incorrect, so I also corrected that in my comment with the information I found when I looked it up.
- chrisseaton 6y agoHave you ever applied to a job and been asked if your college was accredited? Have you ever hired someone and stopped to check if their college was accredited?
- jki275 6y agoWhy would someone ask? The information is available. And if I see a degree from a university I don't recognize and then discover it's unaccredited, sure, that's a red flag. You can't get employment in my industry without a degree from a regionally accredited university.
- chrisseaton 6y agoWhat industry are you in? I guess it isn't CS, because you don't even need a degree here. And the context of this thread is CS.
- jki275 6y agoSoftware Engineering, and in my industry you have to have a degree. You simply won't get hired otherwise.
- chrisseaton 6y agoLol even Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Google all hire without needing a degree. You can go all the way to the top here with no degree. Don’t believe the people telling you you need accreditation!
- jki275 6y agoI know they will do that on occasion, for an outstanding candidate. But the vast majority of their work force has a real degree from an accredited university, and you know it.