I agree with your points on frameworks. I deplore the over-use and reliance on huge swathes of code to accomplish what is a simple task in vanilla code (want to

I agree with your points on frameworks. I deplore the over-use and reliance on huge swathes of code to accomplish what is a simple task in vanilla code (want to select a div in js? use jquery - come on!) But this is not an affliction limited to Java.