I really don't want to argue about this. You're not going to convince me that Django isn't an overblown toy. I'm not going to convince you that it is. Same w

I really don't want to argue about this. You're not going to convince me that Django isn't an overblown toy. I'm not going to convince you that it is. Same with metaclasses, you're not going to convince me that they're a good idea (despite what GvR does with them) and I'm not going to convince you that using them is irresponsible. So what are we left with? > That’s not even the same thing But html.py (would have) solved the problem we had. without the nasty surprise. > In any case, shunning it wholesale is stupid. No, it's conservative. That's a different thing. I want to be able to hire someone who can modify a form. The more complex and obscure the the code is (even if it's only twenty lines long) the smaller the pool of folks who can use it with mastery. Think about it. Anyway, I'm off learning Erlang/OTP now and it really makes Python's runtime look like a joke in comparison. Web-app backends are Erlang-shaped, not Python-shaped. Not using it sooner makes me feel stupid.