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How is this a non-sequitur? There is a clear issue that led to a question about said issue? Issues with google, why is there not a way to solve this? Straightfo

How is this a non-sequitur? There is a clear issue that led to a question about said issue? Issues with google, why is there not a way to solve this? Straightforward.

renewiltord 6y ago
A fair question. I think it comes from the fact that: > If just me as a user of the platform have been feeling increasingly squeezed by AMP, more and more aggressive ads, poorer search results. Large scale data collection, the deeply troubling stance on privacy and anonymity, shouldn't there be a more collective way to say enough? So, we're focusing as a user here. Switching to uBlock Origin Chromium + DDG + Amp bypass extension: * Squeezed by Amp -> Solved * More and more aggressive ads -> No ads, solved * Large scale data collection -> Blocked, solved * Troubling stance on privacy and anonymity -> No data access to your data, solved > And to just head this off: "Just switch platforms bro, there are tons of other options out there, haven't you heard of DDG?" this isn't a valid response and instinctively I know you know it to, that's why there is talk of anti-trust. Everything is dodgeable as a user. Therefore it _is_ a valid response and I do not instinctively know it's not right. There are good arguments, to be clear. If most people are on Gmail and they won't access mail. If Maps data can get Calendar/Mail data for free but no one else can, then that's anti-competitive. If Google uses Chrome to recommend some random tool that's bundling. But not the thing the OP said. I don't think he's right there.
- ocdtrekkie 6y ago
  I would point out that Google believes in AMP first development, that someday websites will be AMP only even. Furthermore, Gmail supports AMP4Email now. This is one of the multiple avenues Google is rewriting the Internet to their own platforms. And the market forces I described are why businesses have to implement AMP. Eventually you and I will get pushed out.
- prepend 6y ago
  Doesn’t solve poorer search results.

How is this a non-sequitur? There is a clear issue that led to a question about said issue? Issues with google, why is there not a way to solve this? Straightforward.

renewiltord 6y ago

A fair question. I think it comes from the fact that: > If just me as a user of the platform have been feeling increasingly squeezed by AMP, more and more aggressive ads, poorer search results. Large scale data collection, the deeply troubling stance on privacy and anonymity, shouldn't there be a more collective way to say enough? So, we're focusing as a user here. Switching to uBlock Origin Chromium + DDG + Amp bypass extension: * Squeezed by Amp -> Solved * More and more aggressive ads -> No ads, solved * Large scale data collection -> Blocked, solved * Troubling stance on privacy and anonymity -> No data access to your data, solved > And to just head this off: "Just switch platforms bro, there are tons of other options out there, haven't you heard of DDG?" this isn't a valid response and instinctively I know you know it to, that's why there is talk of anti-trust. Everything is dodgeable as a user. Therefore it _is_ a valid response and I do not instinctively know it's not right. There are good arguments, to be clear. If most people are on Gmail and they won't access mail. If Maps data can get Calendar/Mail data for free but no one else can, then that's anti-competitive. If Google uses Chrome to recommend some random tool that's bundling. But not the thing the OP said. I don't think he's right there.

ocdtrekkie 6y ago
I would point out that Google believes in AMP first development, that someday websites will be AMP only even. Furthermore, Gmail supports AMP4Email now. This is one of the multiple avenues Google is rewriting the Internet to their own platforms. And the market forces I described are why businesses have to implement AMP. Eventually you and I will get pushed out.
prepend 6y ago
Doesn’t solve poorer search results.