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Gimp has fallen far behind of what is an advanced software. The GUI is atrocious and it's still using GTK2 which is blurry on my scaled screen. And as it seems

Gimp has fallen far behind of what is an advanced software. The GUI is atrocious and it's still using GTK2 which is blurry on my scaled screen. And as it seems there is no way out anytime soon. It was advanded - 10 years ago.

jimmaswell 6y ago
The GUI is perfectly fine. I use it all the time and it does everything I need. Sometimes I have to look up how to do something but that's true of any program. What exactly is it missing?
- murermader 6y ago
  I think his point was more about the GUI technology, instead of the GUI layout. The GUI does not behave very well on HiDPI screens with scaling.
  - enriquto 6y ago
    I do not really understand the problem here. Why do you need to scale instead of using a larger font?
    - philtar 6y ago
      "Why do you need to X?" This is what I sounded like when I was trying to convince my non-nerd friends that they should use Linux on their laptops. People have different requirements. If a modern interface that isn't blurry on modern screens is one of those requirements, then so be it. Convincing them that their requirement is wrong isn't going to fix GIMP
dTal 6y ago
GTK2 doesn't "scale" at all, so whatever is making it blurry on your computer isn't that. Probably you've got a desktop that's trying too hard to scale things. I hate blurriness so I turn all "scaling" off and just set my screen DPI to its real physical value (Xorg, criminally, lies to apps and says it's 96 by default - I force it in .xinitrc with xrandr). DPI-aware apps Just Work, and if it uses raw pixels, it just looks small. I believe for GTK2 you can load a pre-scaled theme, which will solve the too-small thing. Scaling is evil. DPI is the one true king.
- reirob 6y ago
  Agree, the only difficulty to work with DPI is when you have several physical screens. X, from what I understood, combines them to one single virtual screen, with a single DPI setting :-/
prokoudine 6y ago
> The GUI is atrocious and it's still using GTK2 which is blurry on my scaled screen. I'm running GIMP 2.10.x on a HiDPI display (2560x1440, laptop). Nothing is blurry. What version do you have? Sounds like 2.8.something. > And as it seems there is no way out anytime soon. The last section of the release notes kind of covers that.

jimmaswell 6y ago

The GUI is perfectly fine. I use it all the time and it does everything I need. Sometimes I have to look up how to do something but that's true of any program. What exactly is it missing?

murermader 6y ago
I think his point was more about the GUI technology, instead of the GUI layout. The GUI does not behave very well on HiDPI screens with scaling.
- enriquto 6y ago
  I do not really understand the problem here. Why do you need to scale instead of using a larger font?
  - philtar 6y ago
    "Why do you need to X?" This is what I sounded like when I was trying to convince my non-nerd friends that they should use Linux on their laptops. People have different requirements. If a modern interface that isn't blurry on modern screens is one of those requirements, then so be it. Convincing them that their requirement is wrong isn't going to fix GIMP

dTal 6y ago

GTK2 doesn't "scale" at all, so whatever is making it blurry on your computer isn't that. Probably you've got a desktop that's trying too hard to scale things. I hate blurriness so I turn all "scaling" off and just set my screen DPI to its real physical value (Xorg, criminally, lies to apps and says it's 96 by default - I force it in .xinitrc with xrandr). DPI-aware apps Just Work, and if it uses raw pixels, it just looks small. I believe for GTK2 you can load a pre-scaled theme, which will solve the too-small thing. Scaling is evil. DPI is the one true king.

reirob 6y ago
Agree, the only difficulty to work with DPI is when you have several physical screens. X, from what I understood, combines them to one single virtual screen, with a single DPI setting :-/

prokoudine 6y ago

> The GUI is atrocious and it's still using GTK2 which is blurry on my scaled screen. I'm running GIMP 2.10.x on a HiDPI display (2560x1440, laptop). Nothing is blurry. What version do you have? Sounds like 2.8.something. > And as it seems there is no way out anytime soon. The last section of the release notes kind of covers that.