So much like a human evaluates clocks An outside force can evaluate me, and decide if I was good or not. It wasn't my choices or anything from myself that led

So much like a human evaluates clocks An outside force can evaluate me, and decide if I was good or not. It wasn't my choices or anything from myself that led to that Interesting. You could go a long way with that logic. Since you can go a long way, there is also little that can be disagreed with -- even though the way you go can take you many places, and many of them good (in my non-outside-force opinion) I would ask: So there is something that makes some clocks good, and some bad. Something outside of my influence -- so from my reference point it is not determined Is this just semantics. Can I just redefine human to be human+thing_not_determined? The outside force at a minimum should be an algorithm deciding whether clocks are good or bad. The force can be fully determined, and the clocks can be fully determined. But what causes variance in clocks? The source of that variance can also be fixed -- a fully deterministic universe But from the outside force's reference point, is that variance external or internal to the algorithm? External; then the algorithm has an effectively non-deterministic view of clocks Internal; then it is no longer evaluating clocks, rather an evaluation of itself+clocks. No longer a good or bad clock; we have a good or bad God --- Conclusion: Compatibilism is compatible with a non deterministic universe Any fully determined system can be seen as non-determined when looking at a subset. Is quantum mechanics fully determined or not? In a sense it doesn't matter -- since our view of the universe will never be full, and so we can never take a fully deterministic view point??