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Of course, you can only opt-out if you're a citizen of California, Illinois, the EU, UK, or Switzerland. Absurd.

by jackson1442 6y ago

hellcow 6y ago
They don't even honor that. My info and deletion requests from months ago were ignored.
- thephyber 6y ago
  Small claims court litigation (if the courts ever reopen and clear the backlog of bankruptcies) will get some attention.
  - hellcow 6y ago
    There's no record of the claim ever being submitted because they don't send any confirmation. They just ignore it. If you're going to submit these forms, take screenshots as evidence.
  - Nextgrid 6y ago
    Are you suggesting to sue them on the basis of the GDPR? As far as I know that regulation doesn’t have give data subjects the rights to sue, and even then, proving monetary damages will be difficult.
- adrr 6y ago
  Was it a CCPA request or GDPR?
- shostack 6y ago
  Ditto.
- sir_brickalot 6y ago
  I asked for info under GDPR and sent them a heavily redacted copy of my ID (redacted: surname, half my ID, address) and actually got an answer 3 weeks later that they have nothing on me. Citing their email: "Hello, You are receiving this email as a response to your request for data access. After running the photo provided through our algorithm, no matches were found." Next step: Opt-out. Step after that: Rinse, repeat.
thephyber 6y ago
I suggest you make your voice heard with your legislative representatives. Also, to be pedantic, California and Illinois are states, not nations, so the more accurate term is probably resident for those jurisdictions.
- cjhveal 6y ago
  Actually, to be pedantic, citizens of the United States are indeed citizens of the state in which they reside, according to the 14th Amendment: > All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
  - beervirus 6y ago
    That's... a good point. Still, it sounds weird to say that you're a citizen of Oklahoma or whatever. Resident is what most people would call it.
    - vikramkr 6y ago
      In our federal system though, its crucial to make sure people have the right to vote in the states they live. It was even more crucial in the context if the era that the 14th amendment was written in, where states as independent nations willingly participating in the Union with the ability to opt out for whatever reason (slavery) was just put to the test and resolved. At that time, state identity was so strong that people like General Lee saw themselves as Virginians first, Americans second, which led him to fight for the confederacy. Its still an incredibly important distinction and concept today, just having been resolved so thoroughly by now it seems almost weird to think the way the people that wrote that amendment thought. We say the United states is now, but there was a time when we said these united states are instead.
  - boplicity 6y ago
    There is actually an incredibly important distinction here that many politicians actually care a lot about; there are many people who are residents with full rights (and responsibilities) who are not citizens; it is important to be aware of these people when referring to the population as a whole. The term "citizen" does not include these people. The term constituents is commonly used, at least in the political sphere; it covers the broad range of people with legal rights within a jurisdiction.
hoppla 6y ago
Does not gdpr laws apply to Norway anymore?
- disabled 6y ago
  GDPR does apply to Norway, and Norway has a fairly well developed privacy agency. However, according to investigations by Financial Times (the newspaper), none of the European countries have enough people hired to either deal with alleged privacy breaches, or people equipped to actually properly investigate these claims. The Financial Times tends to have great coverage on data privacy. It is impressive on what they uncover, even with technicalities. Also, the coverage is not fleeting or apocalyptic at all. Somehow, I have never been disappointed with them covering even tech in general. But, their data privacy coverage is generally great.
  - hoppla 6y ago
    Ny point is that clearview does not allow Norwegians to opt out
SheinhardtWigCo 6y ago
...by sending them a clear photo of your face and a government-issued ID. Fuck that.
disabled 6y ago
It is worth becoming an EU citizen just to be able to opt out. I am not exaggerating at all.

Of course, you can only opt-out if you're a citizen of California, Illinois, the EU, UK, or Switzerland. Absurd.

hellcow 6y ago

They don't even honor that. My info and deletion requests from months ago were ignored.

thephyber 6y ago
Small claims court litigation (if the courts ever reopen and clear the backlog of bankruptcies) will get some attention.
- hellcow 6y ago
  There's no record of the claim ever being submitted because they don't send any confirmation. They just ignore it. If you're going to submit these forms, take screenshots as evidence.
- Nextgrid 6y ago
  Are you suggesting to sue them on the basis of the GDPR? As far as I know that regulation doesn’t have give data subjects the rights to sue, and even then, proving monetary damages will be difficult.
adrr 6y ago
Was it a CCPA request or GDPR?
shostack 6y ago
Ditto.
sir_brickalot 6y ago
I asked for info under GDPR and sent them a heavily redacted copy of my ID (redacted: surname, half my ID, address) and actually got an answer 3 weeks later that they have nothing on me. Citing their email: "Hello, You are receiving this email as a response to your request for data access. After running the photo provided through our algorithm, no matches were found." Next step: Opt-out. Step after that: Rinse, repeat.

thephyber 6y ago

I suggest you make your voice heard with your legislative representatives. Also, to be pedantic, California and Illinois are states, not nations, so the more accurate term is probably resident for those jurisdictions.

cjhveal 6y ago
Actually, to be pedantic, citizens of the United States are indeed citizens of the state in which they reside, according to the 14th Amendment: > All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
- beervirus 6y ago
  That's... a good point. Still, it sounds weird to say that you're a citizen of Oklahoma or whatever. Resident is what most people would call it.
  - vikramkr 6y ago
    In our federal system though, its crucial to make sure people have the right to vote in the states they live. It was even more crucial in the context if the era that the 14th amendment was written in, where states as independent nations willingly participating in the Union with the ability to opt out for whatever reason (slavery) was just put to the test and resolved. At that time, state identity was so strong that people like General Lee saw themselves as Virginians first, Americans second, which led him to fight for the confederacy. Its still an incredibly important distinction and concept today, just having been resolved so thoroughly by now it seems almost weird to think the way the people that wrote that amendment thought. We say the United states is now, but there was a time when we said these united states are instead.
- boplicity 6y ago
  There is actually an incredibly important distinction here that many politicians actually care a lot about; there are many people who are residents with full rights (and responsibilities) who are not citizens; it is important to be aware of these people when referring to the population as a whole. The term "citizen" does not include these people. The term constituents is commonly used, at least in the political sphere; it covers the broad range of people with legal rights within a jurisdiction.

hoppla 6y ago

Does not gdpr laws apply to Norway anymore?

disabled 6y ago
GDPR does apply to Norway, and Norway has a fairly well developed privacy agency. However, according to investigations by Financial Times (the newspaper), none of the European countries have enough people hired to either deal with alleged privacy breaches, or people equipped to actually properly investigate these claims. The Financial Times tends to have great coverage on data privacy. It is impressive on what they uncover, even with technicalities. Also, the coverage is not fleeting or apocalyptic at all. Somehow, I have never been disappointed with them covering even tech in general. But, their data privacy coverage is generally great.
- hoppla 6y ago
  Ny point is that clearview does not allow Norwegians to opt out

SheinhardtWigCo 6y ago

...by sending them a clear photo of your face and a government-issued ID. Fuck that.

disabled 6y ago

It is worth becoming an EU citizen just to be able to opt out. I am not exaggerating at all.