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Before I switched to MacOS, Gimp was my goto photo editor and I still have much love for this most excellent piece of software. Even though the interface was a

Before I switched to MacOS, Gimp was my goto photo editor and I still have much love for this most excellent piece of software. Even though the interface was a bit clunky in some ways, it was one of the early/ best great apps for desktop Linux. A lot of people forget that the G in GTK stands for Gimp, it is arguably the foundation of much of modern Linux GUI. This makes me want to take a swing at desktop Linux again.

akandiah 6y ago
> A lot of people forget that the G in GTK stands for Gimp Source? It's always stood for Gnome Toolkit. You must be confusing this with the GDK (GIMP Drawing Kit) that's between the library layer and the display server. The GDK is part of the toolkit.
- homarp 6y ago
  GTK was originally designed and used in the GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP) as a replacement of the Motif toolkit; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK
  - homarp 6y ago
    https://web.archive.org/web/19990417052141/http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-1999-01/lw-01-gimp.html https://web.archive.org/web/19990417052141/http://www.linuxw... "GTk (GIMP Toolkit), the windowing toolkit that now lies at the core of the Gnome desktop, was originally written as part of GIMP."
- nwallin 6y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK#History > GTK was originally designed and used in the GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP) as a replacement of the Motif toolkit; at some point Peter Mattis became disenchanted with Motif and began to write his own GUI toolkit named the GIMP toolkit and had successfully replaced Motif by the 0.60 release of GIMP.[36] Finally GTK was re-written to be object-oriented and was renamed GTK+.[37] This was first used in the 0.99 release of GIMP. GTK was subsequently adopted for maintenance by the GNOME Foundation, which uses it in the GNOME desktop environment.
- ogre_codes 6y ago
  Source is ME. Gnome came a year or more after GTK+ did. The whole reason I got interested in Gnome was because it used GTK which I was doing some small pet projects in at the time. But also, it's not too hard to find outside sources. I don't think it's ever been called the Gnome ToolKit by any official source Gnome/ GTK organization.
matt_kantor 6y ago
You may know this, but there is an official version of GIMP for macOS[1]. There are a couple weird things like non-native open/save dialogs, but it's surprisingly usable. [1]: https://www.gimp.org/downloads https://www.gimp.org/downloads
- tobylane 6y ago
  I use Seashore, which appears to be on version 2.5. It’s a port of gimp to native aqua. https://github.com/robaho/seashore https://github.com/robaho/seashore
VWWHFSfQ 6y ago
gimp has always been one of the ugliest user interfaces. even now it looks significantly worse than most linux apps.
- ogre_codes 6y ago
  It's ugly and kind of lovable at the same time. Quite a few things seemed a lot more intuitive to me in GIMP than in other photo editing apps.
rozab 6y ago
For this reason, GTK is my favourite silly acronym: GTK -> GIMP Toolkit -> GNU Image Manipulation Program Toolkit -> GNU's Not Unix Image Manipulation Program Toolkit -> ...
mcv 6y ago
> "A lot of people forget that the G in GTK stands for Gimp, it is arguably the foundation of much of modern Linux GUI." I didn't know that. I'd always assumed the G in GTK stands for GNU. Well, indirectly it does, I guess. Cool to know. But from other comments in this discussion, I get the impression that right now the limitations of GTK are one of the biggest things holding Gimp back.

akandiah 6y ago

> A lot of people forget that the G in GTK stands for Gimp Source? It's always stood for Gnome Toolkit. You must be confusing this with the GDK (GIMP Drawing Kit) that's between the library layer and the display server. The GDK is part of the toolkit.

homarp 6y ago
GTK was originally designed and used in the GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP) as a replacement of the Motif toolkit; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK
- homarp 6y ago
  https://web.archive.org/web/19990417052141/http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-1999-01/lw-01-gimp.html https://web.archive.org/web/19990417052141/http://www.linuxw... "GTk (GIMP Toolkit), the windowing toolkit that now lies at the core of the Gnome desktop, was originally written as part of GIMP."
nwallin 6y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK#History > GTK was originally designed and used in the GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP) as a replacement of the Motif toolkit; at some point Peter Mattis became disenchanted with Motif and began to write his own GUI toolkit named the GIMP toolkit and had successfully replaced Motif by the 0.60 release of GIMP.[36] Finally GTK was re-written to be object-oriented and was renamed GTK+.[37] This was first used in the 0.99 release of GIMP. GTK was subsequently adopted for maintenance by the GNOME Foundation, which uses it in the GNOME desktop environment.
ogre_codes 6y ago
Source is ME. Gnome came a year or more after GTK+ did. The whole reason I got interested in Gnome was because it used GTK which I was doing some small pet projects in at the time. But also, it's not too hard to find outside sources. I don't think it's ever been called the Gnome ToolKit by any official source Gnome/ GTK organization.

matt_kantor 6y ago

You may know this, but there is an official version of GIMP for macOS[1]. There are a couple weird things like non-native open/save dialogs, but it's surprisingly usable. [1]: https://www.gimp.org/downloads https://www.gimp.org/downloads

tobylane 6y ago
I use Seashore, which appears to be on version 2.5. It’s a port of gimp to native aqua. https://github.com/robaho/seashore https://github.com/robaho/seashore

VWWHFSfQ 6y ago

gimp has always been one of the ugliest user interfaces. even now it looks significantly worse than most linux apps.

ogre_codes 6y ago
It's ugly and kind of lovable at the same time. Quite a few things seemed a lot more intuitive to me in GIMP than in other photo editing apps.

rozab 6y ago

For this reason, GTK is my favourite silly acronym: GTK -> GIMP Toolkit -> GNU Image Manipulation Program Toolkit -> GNU's Not Unix Image Manipulation Program Toolkit -> ...

mcv 6y ago

> "A lot of people forget that the G in GTK stands for Gimp, it is arguably the foundation of much of modern Linux GUI." I didn't know that. I'd always assumed the G in GTK stands for GNU. Well, indirectly it does, I guess. Cool to know. But from other comments in this discussion, I get the impression that right now the limitations of GTK are one of the biggest things holding Gimp back.