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If you don't personally have the ability to veto an expense you disagree with then your "voting power" is essentially nil. You are under no obligation to buy a

If you don't personally have the ability to veto an expense you disagree with then your "voting power" is essentially nil. You are under no obligation to buy a refrigerator, no matter what anyone else thinks. You are forced to pay taxes, even when they are spent on things that are directly harmful to you, never mind things you merely have no interest in purchasing.

gspr 6y ago
To live a reasonable modern life you are in practice forced to buy a fridge. You are not forced to pay taxes. Owning property and earning money are choices, if you wanna take it to this ridiculous extreme.
- nybble41 6y ago
  > To live a reasonable modern life you are in practice forced to buy a fridge. There are plenty of other options besides standard residential refrigerators. To start with you can avoid refrigerated goods altogether, or buy them as needed for each meal. You can use an icebox or one of the small portable fridges sold for camping and travel. You can buy a commercial model rather than something aimed at residential users. Or, finally, you can make your own—the basic principles of thermoelectric or compressor-driven refrigeration are very well-known and instructions are available online. If you limit yourself to the most popular solutions right out of the gate, don't complain about your lack of choices. The prison you live in is of your own making; you have no one to blame but yourself. Even if we were talking about something more basic, however, such as food in general rather than merely convenient cold food, there is a very big difference between being "forced" to provide something for yourself due to the nature of the universe and being forced to do something by the deliberate action (or threatened action) of another human being. > Owning property and earning money are choices, if you wanna take it to this ridiculous extreme. Nothing about owning property or earning money entitles anyone else to take a portion of your wealth or profits. Force is force, even if you might have avoided being victimized by acting differently. You have a right to do these things without asking anyone else's permission. If they step in afterward and demand that you pay them in response, they are forcing you to pay. As in: making unilateral demands and threatening the use of force against you if you don't comply.

gspr 6y ago

To live a reasonable modern life you are in practice forced to buy a fridge. You are not forced to pay taxes. Owning property and earning money are choices, if you wanna take it to this ridiculous extreme.

nybble41 6y ago
> To live a reasonable modern life you are in practice forced to buy a fridge. There are plenty of other options besides standard residential refrigerators. To start with you can avoid refrigerated goods altogether, or buy them as needed for each meal. You can use an icebox or one of the small portable fridges sold for camping and travel. You can buy a commercial model rather than something aimed at residential users. Or, finally, you can make your own—the basic principles of thermoelectric or compressor-driven refrigeration are very well-known and instructions are available online. If you limit yourself to the most popular solutions right out of the gate, don't complain about your lack of choices. The prison you live in is of your own making; you have no one to blame but yourself. Even if we were talking about something more basic, however, such as food in general rather than merely convenient cold food, there is a very big difference between being "forced" to provide something for yourself due to the nature of the universe and being forced to do something by the deliberate action (or threatened action) of another human being. > Owning property and earning money are choices, if you wanna take it to this ridiculous extreme. Nothing about owning property or earning money entitles anyone else to take a portion of your wealth or profits. Force is force, even if you might have avoided being victimized by acting differently. You have a right to do these things without asking anyone else's permission. If they step in afterward and demand that you pay them in response, they are forcing you to pay. As in: making unilateral demands and threatening the use of force against you if you don't comply.