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Nice work! Still think Affinity Photo for £23.99 one-time is a better option if you're on Windows/Mac though. I've easily switched from Photoshop which I've ne

Nice work! Still think Affinity Photo for £23.99 one-time is a better option if you're on Windows/Mac though. I've easily switched from Photoshop which I've never been able to do with GIMP.

prox 6y ago
Yes, especially performance is top notch, and switching is from Photoshop is a breeze.
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mythz 6y ago
Never heard of them, thanks for the reference looks like a great high quality app, just bought it on iPad (was only $9.99 atm). On macOS I use Pixelmator which is one of the best quality Apps I have on macOS, was also only a small 1 time purchase. Edit: Spent the last 1hr playing with it on Windows, gorgeous iOS & Mac App of the year quality Apps like this never exist on Windows, at USD $25 it's a steal (50% off until June 20). Finally a Photoshop replacement quality App for my hobby design tasks that I don't need to maintain a subscription for.
- protomyth 6y ago
  For macOS, Acorn is a pretty nice program for those that don't need every bell and whistle and it works (and is updated) fairly regularly.
- jorvi 6y ago
  You shouldn’t trust Pixelmator. They basically took every single complaint about Pixelmator, sat on those for years, and instead of improving Pixelmator they pretty much abandoned it and suddenly released Pixelmator Pro with all those features and fixes instead It’s the same as Flexibits updating Fantastical, switching to a subscription model (the app used to be €6 but now is €50/y) and both putting old features behind paywalls and ‘unlock this with premium’ buttons everywhere that you can’t hide I just can’t & won’t trust companies that pull switcharoos like that Affinity are good folks as far as I can see, and haven’t pulled stunts like that yet Edit: well I guess HN loves everything moving to a subscription world. What the hell..
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  - mythz 6y ago
    I've yet to pay twice for Pixelmator which I've used for years & they've never nagged me once, will gladly pay again in a heartbeat. It's great they offer a different & improved SKU as I don't see how they could develop such a quality App for a low 1 time payment & was concerned for their sustainability, happy to hear they offer a quality upgrade that I can upgrade to support continued development of their quality app.
    - jorvi 6y ago
      The biggest example is single window mode. This was the most requested and most upvoted request for years. It was quite obvious that behind the scenes they decided/realized ‘hey, if this feature is that important to people let’s purposely hold it back until we can use it to force people to upgrade. Genius!’ I understand that there is a limited support window and I understand that sustainable software development requires version upgrades, but the way Pixelmator did it left a foul taste in many many users their mouth.
      - andrekandre 6y ago
        just a single data point to be sure... but for me, i didnt like the ui of pixelmator pro, and am glad they left the older one alone, and made the totaly redesigned one a separate app, as i would have just abandoned it for afinity or something else (not saying pixelmator has a perfect ui by any stretch tho)
      - morsch 6y ago
        Caveat emptor.
  - chrisseaton 6y ago
    What's your problem? They introduced a new and improved product based on feedback. Do you think they should have done that for free? Personally I prefer subscription model.
- dreamcompiler 6y ago
  What bugs me about Pixelmator is that they will not take your money unless you buy the product through the Mac app store, and that means that if you want to run it on older hardware or an older version of MacOS you're SOL. Contrast with Affinity, which supports lots of older versions of MacOS and will happily take your money on their own website. Affinity is the clear winner in this contest for me.
  - LeoPanthera 6y ago
    Pixelmator relies heavily on features of Core Image which are not available in versions of MacOS that don't have the App Store. Affinity does everything in the CPU, which is also why it's slower - Pixelmator gets a lot of GPU acceleration. (And frankly, complaining that it doesn't work on versions of Mac OS released over 9 years ago seems unreasonable.)
    - dreamcompiler 6y ago
      The latest Pixelmator won't work on MacOS 10.12, which was released 4 years ago. 10.12 most certainly has both Core Image and the App Store. Older versions of Pixelmator did work on 10.12. If you can find one, you can download it. But you can neither purchase it or activate it beyond the 30-day demo period.
    - badsectoracula 6y ago
      How is it unreasonable when other programs do work and your computers still works otherwise fine? Why waste money by dumping an otherwise capable computer just because of Apple's arbitrary planned obsolescence?
      - PTOB 6y ago
        Relevant Rossman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVAmnV65_zw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVAmnV65_zw
the_af 6y ago
Features-wise, possibly. If you like your software to be Free (as in "libre") it's probably not better than GIMP. For some people, like the ones who support the FSF, this matters.
- barking 6y ago
  Since FSF only has 4800 paying supporters worldwide, does it matter to that many people, globally, as a point of principle.
  - the_af 6y ago
    Um, yes it does? I'm not a paying supporter and I didn't mean it that way, but I can assure you there are more than 4800 people in the world that care about Free software. Even if there were only 4800, would it really change my point?
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barking 6y ago
That is one absolutely beautiful website.
wetpaws 6y ago
A gentle reminder that Krita is free and basically on par with PS. I was struggling to migrate to Linux for years till Krita matured and adopted Photoshop keybindings.

Nice work! Still think Affinity Photo for £23.99 one-time is a better option if you're on Windows/Mac though. I've easily switched from Photoshop which I've never been able to do with GIMP.

prox 6y ago

Yes, especially performance is top notch, and switching is from Photoshop is a breeze.

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mythz 6y ago

Never heard of them, thanks for the reference looks like a great high quality app, just bought it on iPad (was only $9.99 atm). On macOS I use Pixelmator which is one of the best quality Apps I have on macOS, was also only a small 1 time purchase. Edit: Spent the last 1hr playing with it on Windows, gorgeous iOS & Mac App of the year quality Apps like this never exist on Windows, at USD $25 it's a steal (50% off until June 20). Finally a Photoshop replacement quality App for my hobby design tasks that I don't need to maintain a subscription for.

protomyth 6y ago
For macOS, Acorn is a pretty nice program for those that don't need every bell and whistle and it works (and is updated) fairly regularly.
jorvi 6y ago
You shouldn’t trust Pixelmator. They basically took every single complaint about Pixelmator, sat on those for years, and instead of improving Pixelmator they pretty much abandoned it and suddenly released Pixelmator Pro with all those features and fixes instead It’s the same as Flexibits updating Fantastical, switching to a subscription model (the app used to be €6 but now is €50/y) and both putting old features behind paywalls and ‘unlock this with premium’ buttons everywhere that you can’t hide I just can’t & won’t trust companies that pull switcharoos like that Affinity are good folks as far as I can see, and haven’t pulled stunts like that yet Edit: well I guess HN loves everything moving to a subscription world. What the hell..
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- mythz 6y ago
  I've yet to pay twice for Pixelmator which I've used for years & they've never nagged me once, will gladly pay again in a heartbeat. It's great they offer a different & improved SKU as I don't see how they could develop such a quality App for a low 1 time payment & was concerned for their sustainability, happy to hear they offer a quality upgrade that I can upgrade to support continued development of their quality app.
  - jorvi 6y ago
    The biggest example is single window mode. This was the most requested and most upvoted request for years. It was quite obvious that behind the scenes they decided/realized ‘hey, if this feature is that important to people let’s purposely hold it back until we can use it to force people to upgrade. Genius!’ I understand that there is a limited support window and I understand that sustainable software development requires version upgrades, but the way Pixelmator did it left a foul taste in many many users their mouth.
    - andrekandre 6y ago
      just a single data point to be sure... but for me, i didnt like the ui of pixelmator pro, and am glad they left the older one alone, and made the totaly redesigned one a separate app, as i would have just abandoned it for afinity or something else (not saying pixelmator has a perfect ui by any stretch tho)
    - morsch 6y ago
      Caveat emptor.
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  What's your problem? They introduced a new and improved product based on feedback. Do you think they should have done that for free? Personally I prefer subscription model.
dreamcompiler 6y ago
What bugs me about Pixelmator is that they will not take your money unless you buy the product through the Mac app store, and that means that if you want to run it on older hardware or an older version of MacOS you're SOL. Contrast with Affinity, which supports lots of older versions of MacOS and will happily take your money on their own website. Affinity is the clear winner in this contest for me.
- LeoPanthera 6y ago
  Pixelmator relies heavily on features of Core Image which are not available in versions of MacOS that don't have the App Store. Affinity does everything in the CPU, which is also why it's slower - Pixelmator gets a lot of GPU acceleration. (And frankly, complaining that it doesn't work on versions of Mac OS released over 9 years ago seems unreasonable.)
  - dreamcompiler 6y ago
    The latest Pixelmator won't work on MacOS 10.12, which was released 4 years ago. 10.12 most certainly has both Core Image and the App Store. Older versions of Pixelmator did work on 10.12. If you can find one, you can download it. But you can neither purchase it or activate it beyond the 30-day demo period.
  - badsectoracula 6y ago
    How is it unreasonable when other programs do work and your computers still works otherwise fine? Why waste money by dumping an otherwise capable computer just because of Apple's arbitrary planned obsolescence?
    - PTOB 6y ago
      Relevant Rossman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVAmnV65_zw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVAmnV65_zw

the_af 6y ago

Features-wise, possibly. If you like your software to be Free (as in "libre") it's probably not better than GIMP. For some people, like the ones who support the FSF, this matters.

barking 6y ago
Since FSF only has 4800 paying supporters worldwide, does it matter to that many people, globally, as a point of principle.
- the_af 6y ago
  Um, yes it does? I'm not a paying supporter and I didn't mean it that way, but I can assure you there are more than 4800 people in the world that care about Free software. Even if there were only 4800, would it really change my point?
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barking 6y ago

That is one absolutely beautiful website.

wetpaws 6y ago

A gentle reminder that Krita is free and basically on par with PS. I was struggling to migrate to Linux for years till Krita matured and adopted Photoshop keybindings.