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The existence of the military and state sanctioned murder squads. https://www.radford.edu/gmartin/Immoral%20to%20serve%20in%20military%20paper.htm https://www

The existence of the military and state sanctioned murder squads. https://www.radford.edu/gmartin/Immoral%20to%20serve%20in%20military%20paper.htm https://www.radford.edu/gmartin/Immoral%20to%20serve%20in%20... At the moment, it seems that the vast majority of people carve out a special ethical exception for the military but I suspect this will change over time. Many futurist/sci-fi dystopian scenarios have the general shape of the Terminator movies with autonomous killing machines roaming the planet. If these proliferate, perhaps the terror of that reality will bring into focus the immorality of using force to achieve geopolitical goals. And it feels like we're getting uncomfortably close to that future. https://twitter.com/DocBunker/status/1270390796978536450 https://twitter.com/DocBunker/status/1270390796978536450 https://www.ausa.org/publications/mission-command-and-armed-robotic-systems-command-and-control-human-and-machine https://www.ausa.org/publications/mission-command-and-armed-...

eldacila 6y ago
I didn't even think of this, I live in a country where there is no military, but yes, this
zola 6y ago
Good point, the military is a necessary evil right now, but it could be disbanded if we learn to solve conflicts the proper way. I see robot vs robot battles as and intermediate step in this direction.
- ta17711771 6y ago
  > the military is a necessary evil right now Good example of social stigma. No, in its current form, it's not. Troops amd toys at home, to protect people, not power and profits.
- doesnotexist 6y ago
  "The purpose of the military is to kill people and break things." - Gov. Mike Huckabee and former Republican Candidate for US President I don't think robot soccer is going to be the intermediate step since the threat of human death and the follow through on that threat is an essential feature of the war machine. As difficult to get belligerents to agree to ethical rules of engagement, which would be a requirement for war as robot sport, we can't ignore the rise of asymmetric warfare and warfare via proxy through militias and unofficially backed terrorist organizations. These are often used by states as loopholes to get around treaties and international law. Are terrorists and militias going to be adhering to something resembling Asimov's laws of robotics when deploying their autonomous weapons?

eldacila 6y ago

I didn't even think of this, I live in a country where there is no military, but yes, this

zola 6y ago

Good point, the military is a necessary evil right now, but it could be disbanded if we learn to solve conflicts the proper way. I see robot vs robot battles as and intermediate step in this direction.

ta17711771 6y ago
> the military is a necessary evil right now Good example of social stigma. No, in its current form, it's not. Troops amd toys at home, to protect people, not power and profits.
doesnotexist 6y ago
"The purpose of the military is to kill people and break things." - Gov. Mike Huckabee and former Republican Candidate for US President I don't think robot soccer is going to be the intermediate step since the threat of human death and the follow through on that threat is an essential feature of the war machine. As difficult to get belligerents to agree to ethical rules of engagement, which would be a requirement for war as robot sport, we can't ignore the rise of asymmetric warfare and warfare via proxy through militias and unofficially backed terrorist organizations. These are often used by states as loopholes to get around treaties and international law. Are terrorists and militias going to be adhering to something resembling Asimov's laws of robotics when deploying their autonomous weapons?