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> If you want to establish a legal precedent, you can't just go to a court and ask them to. Courts only hear "cases and controversies" -- to establish what the
by nordsieck 6y ago
> If you want to establish a legal precedent, you can't just go to a court and ask them to. Courts only hear "cases and controversies" -- to establish what the law is, you have to get somebody to sue you.
> The reason this could bankrupt them is mostly because they don't have a lot of money. Their net assets are only a couple million dollars. They have to raise more than that every year just to keep operating.
Are you trying to claim that Internet Archive purposely tried to set a precedent, knowing they don't have enough money to actually do it? That sounds like a pretty damning accusation of gross incompetence.
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- saikia81 6y agoThey can count on support from many. Maybe they have a plan.
- 6510 6y agoWe just pay the bill again and go - meh?
- nordsieck 6y ago> They can count on support from many. Maybe they have a plan. I've looked at the complaint, and I've lived through the Napster trial. It would be one thing if they had a good case and just needed funds to make it through the trial. That's not what's going on here. When you mix statutory copyright violation with digital technology, you get infinite fines. Any money you donate is going to the book publishers at the end of the day.
- salawat 6y ago>Are you trying to claim that Internet Archive purposely tried to set a precedent, knowing they don't have enough money to actually do it? Well, at least there's an implicit admission justice is bought by the highest bidder.
- kerkeslager 6y agoI would rather support organizations that make strategic blunders than organizations which compromise their principles.
- sukilot 6y agoYou can't when organizations make blunders that destroy themselves.
- kerkeslager 6y agoI can, do, and will. There has to be room in the charity ecosystem for organizations that take risks. It remains to be seen whether this blunder will actually destroy the Internet Archive. In general, I think the idea that good things have to last forever is overrated. Organizations willing to compromise their values eventually drift away from those values completely, which is worse than simply ceasing to exist--such organizations can linger on and do more harm than good.
- ComputerGuru 6y agoHow is staying out of this altogether “compromising their principles?”
- kerkeslager 6y ago"Our mission is to provide Universal Access to All Knowledge."[1] That is pretty unambiguous. [1] https://archive.org/about/ https://archive.org/about/ EDIT: The previous version of this post was unnecessarily combative, in response to what may have been a good faith question. Sorry.
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