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True! It wasn't like that in the beginning though - this story has been purged everywhere. And this reporting in particular is saddening. Journalism is suppose

by s9w 6y ago

True! It wasn't like that in the beginning though - this story has been purged everywhere. And this reporting in particular is saddening. Journalism is supposed to be about facts and not feelings. This article does hardly contain any relevant facts and only tells you how to feel - and it's being eaten up.

eesmith 6y ago
It's a fact that people have feelings. Journalism reports on feelings all the time. A DDG search for "classic journalism feelings" easily found https://www.cjr.org/analysis/journalism_and_the_power_of_emotions.php https://www.cjr.org/analysis/journalism_and_the_power_of_emo... - "Journalism and the power of emotions" > “Invisible Child” is an example of the power of storytelling. It’s also an example of what motivates many journalists, what we believe is possible through our narratives: to extend empathy for the individual to the group, to correct injustice and inspire change, or at least awareness. ... > From stories about living conditions in New York’s slum tenements of the 1880s to the plight of children in contemporary homeless shelters, empathy is an integral part of journalism.
- s9w 6y ago
  This is not a big opinion piece or a report on a grand problem of society. It's about a singular event that happened on Sunday. In fact the BBC did never report on that actual event itself (if their site search works correct at least). But they did write about people trying to bring it to light and labeled them racist trolls. That is not reporting and it's not even "just" omission. It's straight up manipulation. They're doing the exact opposite of what they're supposed to. And they're being paid by the very people they lie to and harming them in the process by massively shifting the perceived reality.
  - eesmith 6y ago
    There's more than one news source. https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ireland-reddit-page-shutting-overnight-as-moderators-try-to-stem-the-flow-of-extreme-racist-content-39271777.html https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ireland-reddit-page-sh... says: > "It comes as far-right groups have started an orchestrated attempt to hijack online discussions about an attack in Carrigaline with racist commentary." https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Carrigaline&t=ffsb&df=w&iar=news&ia=news https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Carrigaline&t=ffsb&df=w&iar=news&i... shows almost only Irish reporting of that stabbing. Eg, https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/family-of-carrigaline-stab-victim-distance-themselves-from-online-fundraiser-1004329.html https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/family-of... : > The family of a teenager who was assaulted and stabbed in Cork at the weekend have distanced themselves from an online fundraising campaign which has been shut down after it was linked to vile racist rhetoric. > ... Despite pleas for it not to be shared, several online social media accounts - many anonymous and troll accounts - as well as some far-right accounts based overseas, urged their followers to use the assault and the video clip to “control the narrative”. > The incident and clip triggered a wave of racist commentary despite confirmation from friends of the injured boy that the attack had nothing to do with race.
    - s9w 6y ago
      Even in the lines you quoted there were several lies. But you know that topic is verboten for people like me. I'll leave it at that.
      - eesmith 6y ago
        And some people honestly believed a underground child sex ring was located under a pizzeria with no basement. And that Obama was born in Kenya. At what point do you decide that there is conspiracy preventing publication, vs. that your hidden sources of information are lying to you?

by s9w 6y ago

eesmith 6y ago

It's a fact that people have feelings. Journalism reports on feelings all the time. A DDG search for "classic journalism feelings" easily found https://www.cjr.org/analysis/journalism_and_the_power_of_emotions.php https://www.cjr.org/analysis/journalism_and_the_power_of_emo... - "Journalism and the power of emotions" > “Invisible Child” is an example of the power of storytelling. It’s also an example of what motivates many journalists, what we believe is possible through our narratives: to extend empathy for the individual to the group, to correct injustice and inspire change, or at least awareness. ... > From stories about living conditions in New York’s slum tenements of the 1880s to the plight of children in contemporary homeless shelters, empathy is an integral part of journalism.

s9w 6y ago
This is not a big opinion piece or a report on a grand problem of society. It's about a singular event that happened on Sunday. In fact the BBC did never report on that actual event itself (if their site search works correct at least). But they did write about people trying to bring it to light and labeled them racist trolls. That is not reporting and it's not even "just" omission. It's straight up manipulation. They're doing the exact opposite of what they're supposed to. And they're being paid by the very people they lie to and harming them in the process by massively shifting the perceived reality.
- eesmith 6y ago
  There's more than one news source. https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ireland-reddit-page-shutting-overnight-as-moderators-try-to-stem-the-flow-of-extreme-racist-content-39271777.html https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ireland-reddit-page-sh... says: > "It comes as far-right groups have started an orchestrated attempt to hijack online discussions about an attack in Carrigaline with racist commentary." https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Carrigaline&t=ffsb&df=w&iar=news&ia=news https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Carrigaline&t=ffsb&df=w&iar=news&i... shows almost only Irish reporting of that stabbing. Eg, https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/family-of-carrigaline-stab-victim-distance-themselves-from-online-fundraiser-1004329.html https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/family-of... : > The family of a teenager who was assaulted and stabbed in Cork at the weekend have distanced themselves from an online fundraising campaign which has been shut down after it was linked to vile racist rhetoric. > ... Despite pleas for it not to be shared, several online social media accounts - many anonymous and troll accounts - as well as some far-right accounts based overseas, urged their followers to use the assault and the video clip to “control the narrative”. > The incident and clip triggered a wave of racist commentary despite confirmation from friends of the injured boy that the attack had nothing to do with race.
  - s9w 6y ago
    Even in the lines you quoted there were several lies. But you know that topic is verboten for people like me. I'll leave it at that.
    - eesmith 6y ago
      And some people honestly believed a underground child sex ring was located under a pizzeria with no basement. And that Obama was born in Kenya. At what point do you decide that there is conspiracy preventing publication, vs. that your hidden sources of information are lying to you?