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> In doing so, it essentially allowed for a single copy of a book to be downloaded an infinite number of times. The publishers response to doing this was comp

> In doing so, it essentially allowed for a single copy of a book to be downloaded an infinite number of times. The publishers response to doing this was completely predictable. Maybe the leadership needs more diversity of background. Having someone who has been in the publishing business in that meeting when this was deemed a good idea maybe could have prevented this disaster.

dehrmann 6y ago
I used to work for Spotify, and pretty much everything we did with music, lyrics, or album art had to go through legal, and projects often had to get label approval. This is just how you do things when you're working with IP. It is a bit surprising that a non-profit dedicated to archiving knowledge doesn't have more experience with IP law. Not even lawyer-level, just enough to know when CC general counsel.
- abiogenesis 6y ago
  Interesting. Do you have any insider information regarding this? https://torrentfreak.com/spotifys-beta-used-pirate-mp3-files-some-from-pirate-bay-170509/ https://torrentfreak.com/spotifys-beta-used-pirate-mp3-files...
- atemerev 6y ago
  If you work for Spotify, you probably know _where_ Spotify has got its initial music collection. ;)
- zucker42 6y ago
  https://techcrunch.com/2018/12/20/spotify-settles-the-1-6b-copyright-lawsuit-filed-by-music-publisher-wixen/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/12/20/spotify-settles-the-1-6b-c... > The complaint had alleged that “Spotify brazenly disregards United States Copyright law and has committed willful, ongoing copyright infringement,” it said. Note that I'm not saying Spotify did anything wrong in this case, but it does show two things. 1. Big companies can manipulate the system better than nonprofits or individuals. 2. Publishers sue to exploit the unreasonable monopoly the law gives them.
  - dehrmann 6y ago
    This is a much better article on the Wixen lawsuit (be careful when you come across iTunes it it; it might refer to downloads, not streaming): https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/14/17117160/spotify-mechanical-license-copyright-wixen-explainer https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/14/17117160/spotify-mechanic... IIRC, the problem was that Spotify didn't know who to pay because there isn't a list of song to song writer, unlike song to label. Apple Music had the same problem.

dehrmann 6y ago

I used to work for Spotify, and pretty much everything we did with music, lyrics, or album art had to go through legal, and projects often had to get label approval. This is just how you do things when you're working with IP. It is a bit surprising that a non-profit dedicated to archiving knowledge doesn't have more experience with IP law. Not even lawyer-level, just enough to know when CC general counsel.

abiogenesis 6y ago
Interesting. Do you have any insider information regarding this? https://torrentfreak.com/spotifys-beta-used-pirate-mp3-files-some-from-pirate-bay-170509/ https://torrentfreak.com/spotifys-beta-used-pirate-mp3-files...
atemerev 6y ago
If you work for Spotify, you probably know _where_ Spotify has got its initial music collection. ;)
zucker42 6y ago
https://techcrunch.com/2018/12/20/spotify-settles-the-1-6b-copyright-lawsuit-filed-by-music-publisher-wixen/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/12/20/spotify-settles-the-1-6b-c... > The complaint had alleged that “Spotify brazenly disregards United States Copyright law and has committed willful, ongoing copyright infringement,” it said. Note that I'm not saying Spotify did anything wrong in this case, but it does show two things. 1. Big companies can manipulate the system better than nonprofits or individuals. 2. Publishers sue to exploit the unreasonable monopoly the law gives them.
- dehrmann 6y ago
  This is a much better article on the Wixen lawsuit (be careful when you come across iTunes it it; it might refer to downloads, not streaming): https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/14/17117160/spotify-mechanical-license-copyright-wixen-explainer https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/14/17117160/spotify-mechanic... IIRC, the problem was that Spotify didn't know who to pay because there isn't a list of song to song writer, unlike song to label. Apple Music had the same problem.