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It's disgusting that the "article" doesn't even mention what this is all about. It's not like there are suddenly bad people swarming an innocent sub and "troll"

by s9w 6y ago

It's disgusting that the "article" doesn't even mention what this is all about. It's not like there are suddenly bad people swarming an innocent sub and "troll" it. There was an event happening in Ireland that is being censored on there and around the globe. Everyone who tries to bring it to light is being labeled a "racist troll" and punished by the machine. And it's even more disappointing that it works - with multiple people here wondering "why would people do that", without even looking for the real answer.

eesmith 6y ago
I take it you are afraid of mentioning whatever it is for fear of being labelled likewise? There have been many events, so it's hard to know which real answer you're alluding to.
- s9w 6y ago
  yes
  - eesmith 6y ago
    Which means it could be racist trolling that you don't actually understand to be racist trolling. I've seen many green/new accounts. That's one way to comment about it.
    - s9w 6y ago
      True! It wasn't like that in the beginning though - this story has been purged everywhere. And this reporting in particular is saddening. Journalism is supposed to be about facts and not feelings. This article does hardly contain any relevant facts and only tells you how to feel - and it's being eaten up.
      - eesmith 6y ago
        It's a fact that people have feelings. Journalism reports on feelings all the time. A DDG search for "classic journalism feelings" easily found https://www.cjr.org/analysis/journalism_and_the_power_of_emotions.php https://www.cjr.org/analysis/journalism_and_the_power_of_emo... - "Journalism and the power of emotions" > “Invisible Child” is an example of the power of storytelling. It’s also an example of what motivates many journalists, what we believe is possible through our narratives: to extend empathy for the individual to the group, to correct injustice and inspire change, or at least awareness. ... > From stories about living conditions in New York’s slum tenements of the 1880s to the plight of children in contemporary homeless shelters, empathy is an integral part of journalism.
        s9w 6y ago
        This is not a big opinion piece or a report on a grand problem of society. It's about a singular event that happened on Sunday. In fact the BBC did never report on that actual event itself (if their site search works correct at least). But they did write about people trying to bring it to light and labeled them racist trolls. That is not reporting and it's not even "just" omission. It's straight up manipulation. They're doing the exact opposite of what they're supposed to. And they're being paid by the very people they lie to and harming them in the process by massively shifting the perceived reality.
        eesmith 6y ago
        There's more than one news source. https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ireland-reddit-page-shutting-overnight-as-moderators-try-to-stem-the-flow-of-extreme-racist-content-39271777.html https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ireland-reddit-page-sh... says: > "It comes as far-right groups have started an orchestrated attempt to hijack online discussions about an attack in Carrigaline with racist commentary." https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Carrigaline&t=ffsb&df=w&iar=news&ia=news https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Carrigaline&t=ffsb&df=w&iar=news&i... shows almost only Irish reporting of that stabbing. Eg, https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/family-of-carrigaline-stab-victim-distance-themselves-from-online-fundraiser-1004329.html https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/family-of... : > The family of a teenager who was assaulted and stabbed in Cork at the weekend have distanced themselves from an online fundraising campaign which has been shut down after it was linked to vile racist rhetoric. > ... Despite pleas for it not to be shared, several online social media accounts - many anonymous and troll accounts - as well as some far-right accounts based overseas, urged their followers to use the assault and the video clip to “control the narrative”. > The incident and clip triggered a wave of racist commentary despite confirmation from friends of the injured boy that the attack had nothing to do with race.

by s9w 6y ago

eesmith 6y ago

I take it you are afraid of mentioning whatever it is for fear of being labelled likewise? There have been many events, so it's hard to know which real answer you're alluding to.

s9w 6y ago
yes
- eesmith 6y ago
  Which means it could be racist trolling that you don't actually understand to be racist trolling. I've seen many green/new accounts. That's one way to comment about it.
  - s9w 6y ago
    True! It wasn't like that in the beginning though - this story has been purged everywhere. And this reporting in particular is saddening. Journalism is supposed to be about facts and not feelings. This article does hardly contain any relevant facts and only tells you how to feel - and it's being eaten up.
    - eesmith 6y ago
      It's a fact that people have feelings. Journalism reports on feelings all the time. A DDG search for "classic journalism feelings" easily found https://www.cjr.org/analysis/journalism_and_the_power_of_emotions.php https://www.cjr.org/analysis/journalism_and_the_power_of_emo... - "Journalism and the power of emotions" > “Invisible Child” is an example of the power of storytelling. It’s also an example of what motivates many journalists, what we believe is possible through our narratives: to extend empathy for the individual to the group, to correct injustice and inspire change, or at least awareness. ... > From stories about living conditions in New York’s slum tenements of the 1880s to the plight of children in contemporary homeless shelters, empathy is an integral part of journalism.
      - s9w 6y ago
        This is not a big opinion piece or a report on a grand problem of society. It's about a singular event that happened on Sunday. In fact the BBC did never report on that actual event itself (if their site search works correct at least). But they did write about people trying to bring it to light and labeled them racist trolls. That is not reporting and it's not even "just" omission. It's straight up manipulation. They're doing the exact opposite of what they're supposed to. And they're being paid by the very people they lie to and harming them in the process by massively shifting the perceived reality.
        eesmith 6y ago
        There's more than one news source. https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ireland-reddit-page-shutting-overnight-as-moderators-try-to-stem-the-flow-of-extreme-racist-content-39271777.html https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ireland-reddit-page-sh... says: > "It comes as far-right groups have started an orchestrated attempt to hijack online discussions about an attack in Carrigaline with racist commentary." https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Carrigaline&t=ffsb&df=w&iar=news&ia=news https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Carrigaline&t=ffsb&df=w&iar=news&i... shows almost only Irish reporting of that stabbing. Eg, https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/family-of-carrigaline-stab-victim-distance-themselves-from-online-fundraiser-1004329.html https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/family-of... : > The family of a teenager who was assaulted and stabbed in Cork at the weekend have distanced themselves from an online fundraising campaign which has been shut down after it was linked to vile racist rhetoric. > ... Despite pleas for it not to be shared, several online social media accounts - many anonymous and troll accounts - as well as some far-right accounts based overseas, urged their followers to use the assault and the video clip to “control the narrative”. > The incident and clip triggered a wave of racist commentary despite confirmation from friends of the injured boy that the attack had nothing to do with race.