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>You are killing the golden goose by trying to force people toward the app I think this is the the type of requests that shows the disconnect between the HN cr

>You are killing the golden goose by trying to force people toward the app I think this is the the type of requests that shows the disconnect between the HN crowd and real users. The majority of users will use the app. It's entirely in reddit's benefit to push the app, that's where they have complete control and can add more tracking and ads without the hindrance of ad/tracking blockers. old.reddit.com is all I use but some new features (like polls) are already a second class citizen and I don't see it surviving long down the line.

buzzkillington 6y ago
>The majority of users will use the app. In the same way that the majority of users use pintrest. Until you train them to close the site out of reflex.
- iknowstuff 6y ago
  You bring up a good point. There is certainly a line, which, when crossed, will nudge more users to download the app, but also make the site unappealing to the point of avoiding it or clicking away. This might be a long-term, difficult to track&diagnose consequence of the dark pattern.
DaiPlusPlus 6y ago
Reddit is smarter than digg though - they know they need to keep their legacy and leader users happy - because once influencers (real ones, not Instagram users) leave the site will stop being culturally relevant. The fact they’ve kept the old site still running for so long (4 years now?) I think it evidence they’ll keep it around. I don’t think it’s costing them anything.
- samplatt 6y ago
  >I don’t think it’s costing them anything. It's almost certainly costing them LESS, since there'd be less of a focus on development AND it'll use less bandwidth due to smaller preview thumbnails and no preview video... that's probably outsourced to a different cdn but whatever.
jgsimmerman 6y ago
Yeah, I asked my girlfriend some question about reddit, and she said "I don't know, I just use the app."
dbuder 6y ago
You're basically saying that people who understand what is going on don't like it and people that don't understand what is going on don't care and that is a disconnect where those that understand are wrong to complain.

buzzkillington 6y ago

>The majority of users will use the app. In the same way that the majority of users use pintrest. Until you train them to close the site out of reflex.

iknowstuff 6y ago
You bring up a good point. There is certainly a line, which, when crossed, will nudge more users to download the app, but also make the site unappealing to the point of avoiding it or clicking away. This might be a long-term, difficult to track&diagnose consequence of the dark pattern.

DaiPlusPlus 6y ago

Reddit is smarter than digg though - they know they need to keep their legacy and leader users happy - because once influencers (real ones, not Instagram users) leave the site will stop being culturally relevant. The fact they’ve kept the old site still running for so long (4 years now?) I think it evidence they’ll keep it around. I don’t think it’s costing them anything.

samplatt 6y ago
>I don’t think it’s costing them anything. It's almost certainly costing them LESS, since there'd be less of a focus on development AND it'll use less bandwidth due to smaller preview thumbnails and no preview video... that's probably outsourced to a different cdn but whatever.

jgsimmerman 6y ago

Yeah, I asked my girlfriend some question about reddit, and she said "I don't know, I just use the app."

dbuder 6y ago

You're basically saying that people who understand what is going on don't like it and people that don't understand what is going on don't care and that is a disconnect where those that understand are wrong to complain.