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> All people are asking for is _one_ outsider voice on the board. I'm curious what people think the end result of such a thing would be. Does having an outside

> All people are asking for is _one_ outsider voice on the board. I'm curious what people think the end result of such a thing would be. Does having an outside voice actually contribute to better outcomes for the company? Is there a reason people couldn't just advocate for the current board to listen to other people in their time rather than having a dedicated "outside voice" position? I've seen outsiders come into companies before and fail miserably to accomplish anything because the culture is to not listen to an outsider. It seems like virtue signalling position to take (advocating for one outsider voice rather than systemic change). Who cares if you get a person who is an outsider on a board if it doesn't fundamentally change things. If you want fundamental change, you'll need to kick all those people out and/or shutdown the company. One person would be ignored. You know this is true because we all do this at work already. We've all encountered someone who is that "outside voice" in one way or another - they promptly get ignored in a discussion. "Here's Jim with his crazy ideas - again. :eyeroll:"

dvtrn 6y ago
You know what? You’re right. Let’s call this what it is: pure virtue signaling. Now that that’s done, what’s next? How can we boost the signal? I like this particular virtue. I think it’s worthy and achievable and more people should be able to tune into it. Admittedly I’m biased as a person with a few differently complexities of melanin in my skin, that has been treated like an outsider in so many different ways, but hell if were signaling virtues let’s be upfront and own this shit and do some good with it. What’s to lose? The integrity of Reddit because they put a black man at the helm? Eh. Worth a shot in my opinion.
- dbuder 6y ago
  >What’s to lose? The integrity of Reddit because they put a black man at the helm? Eh. Worth a shot in my opinion. You have no skin in the game, sell all your possessions and put it all on black in Vegas, worth a shot in my opinion.
pvg 6y ago
Does having an outside voice actually contribute to better outcomes for the company? US corporations seem to think so - zillions of businesses have outside directors, it's an established practice.
rodgerd 6y ago
> Does having an outside voice actually contribute to better outcomes for the company? Well, gee, I don't know, maybe having someone ask why it always takes being in the news before Reddit's management decide that it's a bad idea to host underage porn or literal Nazis, rather than, you know, treating it as a bad idea.

dvtrn 6y ago

You know what? You’re right. Let’s call this what it is: pure virtue signaling. Now that that’s done, what’s next? How can we boost the signal? I like this particular virtue. I think it’s worthy and achievable and more people should be able to tune into it. Admittedly I’m biased as a person with a few differently complexities of melanin in my skin, that has been treated like an outsider in so many different ways, but hell if were signaling virtues let’s be upfront and own this shit and do some good with it. What’s to lose? The integrity of Reddit because they put a black man at the helm? Eh. Worth a shot in my opinion.

dbuder 6y ago
>What’s to lose? The integrity of Reddit because they put a black man at the helm? Eh. Worth a shot in my opinion. You have no skin in the game, sell all your possessions and put it all on black in Vegas, worth a shot in my opinion.

pvg 6y ago

Does having an outside voice actually contribute to better outcomes for the company? US corporations seem to think so - zillions of businesses have outside directors, it's an established practice.

rodgerd 6y ago

> Does having an outside voice actually contribute to better outcomes for the company? Well, gee, I don't know, maybe having someone ask why it always takes being in the news before Reddit's management decide that it's a bad idea to host underage porn or literal Nazis, rather than, you know, treating it as a bad idea.