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What about in the UK? At the BLM protest, the police rub around with their camcorder on the stick to justify kettling people for 4+ hours and squash people's wi
by smashah 6y ago
What about in the UK? At the BLM protest, the police rub around with their camcorder on the stick to justify kettling people for 4+ hours and squash people's will to protest. They require you to show your face or arrest you. All because they want to use Rekognition to cross reference everyone's face.
- easytiger 6y agogood
- scubbo 6y agoCare to elaborate?
- smashah 6y agoWhat did they say?
- easytiger 6y agoThat it is good that the police are holding people attacking the police to account? Why does that need an explanation?
- scubbo 6y agoI reject the implication that police will only use facial recognition on people who are attacking the police, or that the repercussions for being present at (not necessarily instigating, or using violence during) a violent altercation will be proportional.
- zo1 6y agoNot OP - but this is really good policing in my view. If the data stays private and not used against people in an unfair way subsequently, then I see no reason for it to be seen as "worrying" as the other commenter said. E.g. they can cross reference-timestamps and see which individuals were close to violent altercations, they can then build up a solid case for who to interview and investigate further. Or maybe an actual crime happens during the protests and they need to investigate further, etc. Honestly, as a side note, I personally find it very worrying that I have to justify such policing to a tech crowd. We can have responsible use of facial recognition and data-gather / profile-building, and it need not be a privacy issue. Right now, we sit with a situation where violent/aggressive/illegal behavior is being allowed to transpire during chaotic protests and it slips through because of the chaos and sheer scope and size of the protests. There is no way that traditional "policing" can combat that, and I fear we're emboldening criminal elements to take advantage of peaceful protests because we're unnecessarily tying the hands of the police because of nebulous "privacy" concerns. And yes, burning/looting is a criminal act and shouldn't be tolerated during protests.
- smashah 6y agoYou don't need to techsplain this in hackernews of all places, it's cringey. You must be a perpetual contrarian, it makes you special. There is a direct line between police use of Rekognition and the pretence to squash the freedom to protest. But you knew that, you just purposely have your blinders on to protect your worldview. Enjoy your leather sandwich.
- easytiger 6y agoFor a start police in the UK have been videoing crowds with Handy Cams and mounted specialist mobile CCTV for decades for manual review. They have proved invaluable in NI for example in securing convictions of violent persons. No one is saying there isn't a right to protest. The police have a duty to enforce the law and when protests turn violent they have the support of the majority to enforce that. This method means minimal engagement with the crowd.
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- smashah 6y ago*run
- isolli 6y agoThat is troubling. Do you have references for that?
- smashah 6y agohttps://twitter.com/alessadavison/status/1270430150254084096?s=19 https://twitter.com/alessadavison/status/1270430150254084096... Plus corroborating anecdotes from people I've met at the protests. I always make sure I'm out of the way when these monkeys start kettling protestors
- zo1 6y agoCare to elaborate why it's troubling?