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My father-in-law said exactly that to me. I wanted to reach out and smack him. Unfortunately, it isn't just a "mental copout", either. He is a very intelligent
by SoftwareMaven 16y ago
My father-in-law said exactly that to me. I wanted to reach out and smack him. Unfortunately, it isn't just a "mental copout", either. He is a very intelligent person who has arrived at a conclusion that the government oversight is OK because he has nothing to hide and (I have inferred) he is very afraid of those who do have something to hide.
- Joakal 16y agoAsk him if he or someone ever had an issue with someone with power in a company or government. Then ask what does the person have in arsenal when the people with power have a ton of information combined with power? "Who watches the watchers" argument.
- SoftwareMaven 16y agoUnfortunately, fear of the "bad guys" out-weighs his fears of the government, and I suspect that is likely to be the case for most people. After all, they have nothing to hide...
- Joakal 16y agoBad guys never get into the government? Seems like he believes in Us vs Them mentality: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/False_dilemma https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/False_dilemma
- cookiecaper 16y agoI've found that most baby boomers have this mentality. They trust the government to do the right thing.
- joelhaasnoot 16y agoKorea, Vietnam, Iraq, oh yes, the government always does the right thing...
- Glide 16y agoAs korean american, I would love if you would qualify your statement about Korea.
- joelhaasnoot 16y agoWar is still war, there were deaths, veterans who weren't the same, etc etc. I'm a child of the 80s, so I can't say I remember the details, but war isn't always a pretty thing. Going by what Wikipedia says (yes, I know it's a single source), the US wasn't exactly smart about how it was handled leading up to the Korean war.
- jbm 16y agoAlthough none of us are enamored with North Korea, there was a fair share of atrocities that were committed by UN forces on the NK population and the South Korean government against communist sympathizers in their own country. The Wiki article goes into it in some detail. (No, it doesn't make it OK because "they were doing it".) (As an aside, I sometimes bitterly contemplate how many great Korean minds were lost in that war because of their personal politics)
- nir 16y agoIndeed, baby boomers have been famous for trusting the government. Especially on Vietnam.
- mseebach 16y agoBaby boomers were anti-establishment, right up until they became the establishment. That's where the "neo" in neocon comes from.
- nir 16y agoBaby boomers actually have little to do with Neocon ideology: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism#History_and_origins http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism#History_and_ori...
- nopassrecover 16y agoI bet your father-in-law wouldn't take too kindly to Government workers taking a look at his wife naked when they felt like it or recording (if you'll forgive me) their ahem marital moments. Privacy is a human requirement, as evidenced by the deprivation of privacy as a punishment in prisons, and is much more than protection of those with something to hide.
- randallsquared 16y agoPrivacy seems more like a cultural thing... that doesn't mean that being deprived of it can't be effective as a punishment. In any case, we'd better hope it's a cultural need and not a human need, since it's essentially going away, and I can't think of anything short of the collapse of civilization that could prevent that.
- manveru 16y agoMaybe he'd like to read http://craphound.com/littlebrother/ http://craphound.com/littlebrother/ It's probably more targeted at a juvenile segment, but an interesting and enlightening book nonetheless.
- sharednothing 16y agoYour father-in-law has poor grasp of the concepts "Freedom of association", "Innocent before proven guilty", and "Unreasonable Search".