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Is Google really any better? They may simply be better at hiding their surveillance apparatus. We need to decentralize, i.e. destroy large non-decentralized org
by longtom 6y ago
Is Google really any better? They may simply be better at hiding their surveillance apparatus. We need to decentralize, i.e. destroy large non-decentralized organizations.
- ilikehurdles 6y agoNo it is not. I'm planning on switching to jitsi for my personal and non-profit projects, and I guess I'll advocate for it at work. Switching from Zoom to Google/Microsoft/Cisco anything is like switching from Evian to Aquafina.
- jentist_retol 6y agoUS citizens have a significant better chance at fighting a warrant. Personally, we've been using Jitsi for video. It's not amazing, but it is free in many senses of the word.
- longtom 6y agoTwo comments recommending Jitsi. Suspicious.
- jentist_retol 6y agoIf you find a better one that is not absolutely arcane and frustrating to use, let me know. Until then, Jitsi is "good enough", even if it's still pretty rough in certain parts.
- nix23 6y agoI love Jitsy for Video, but for schooling i prefer BigBlueButton it's also FOSS, but yes it's really not the same 'product-category': https://bigbluebutton.org/ https://bigbluebutton.org/
- st1ck 6y agoJitsi is pretty good. If you know a better FOSS tool for videoconferencing, I'd be happy to check it out.
- havfo 6y agoShameless plug: https://github.com/havfo/multiparty-meeting https://github.com/havfo/multiparty-meeting
- feanaro 6y agoWhy is that suspicious?
- Aunche 6y agoZoom is a US company founded by an American citizen.
- barry-cotter 6y agoZoom is a US company founded by an immigrant from China with 700 employees in China where the software and product development teams are. All 700 of those employees can be leaned on to break security generally or to break it for one specific person or meeting, even if we don’t believe there management of the Chinese or American parts of the firm won’t just do what the CPC ask them to do.
- Thorrez 6y agoWhich closed the account of a US-based activist for hosting a Tiananmen event.
- bananabreakfast 6y agoAbsolutely, don't be ridiculous. Google is not and will never be complicit to Chinese censorship in America. This is classic whataboutism and we don't benefit from such hyperbole.
- longtom 6y agoGoogle does engage in censorship in the U.S.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_by_Google#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_by_Google#United_St...
- longtom 6y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKwr3DDvFpw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKwr3DDvFpw
- nix23 6y ago>Google is not and will never be complicit to Chinese censorship in America Uhh that's a strong stand for something you don't know...especially the 'never' part of it.