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There's a lot of ground between supporting black people and racial equality on the one hand, and the goals of BLM on the other. I'd hazard a guess that most Am

There's a lot of ground between supporting black people and racial equality on the one hand, and the goals of BLM on the other. I'd hazard a guess that most Americans are in favor of the former and opposed to the latter.

stonogo 6y ago
What are BLM's goals?
- downerending 6y ago
  Not sure this is authoritative, but seems plausible: https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/ https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/ It's not very well formatted, but you can skip about half-way down and look for text that seems like a list.
mannykannot 6y ago
If someone whom I regarded as a friend, or generally had a good opinion of, expressed that position, I would like them to explain to me what they regard as the significant differences between the two positions.
- downerending 6y ago
  Just picking a quote from the sibling link: We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable. I don't think this is entailed in the general idea of supporting black people and equal rights. There are plenty of other goals on that page that are similarly not obviously entailed.
  - jkhdigital 6y ago
    I was reading this thread, and that exact paragraph from the BLM website popped into my mind right before you provided it as an example.
  - mannykannot 6y ago
    OK - I was wondering if there was anything substantial here, but so far it just seems to be further examples of the overblown rhetoric that seems to be everywhere these days. Personally, I would doubt whether many of the people endorsing the position that black lives matter are even aware that an entity controlling this domain name is stating these positions, let alone that they concur with all of them.
- jkhdigital 6y ago
  May I seek rather to understand than to be understood says a well-known prayer. I believe the right thing to do is actively probe others’ opinions and points of view to make sure I understand them. If more people placed the burden of understanding on themselves and not the other then I suspect we would not be in this position right now.
  - mannykannot 6y ago
    As for me, I believe the right thing to to is to not choke to death someone who is already beyond posing any sort of threat. If we had less of that then I suspect we would not be in this position right now.

stonogo 6y ago

What are BLM's goals?

downerending 6y ago
Not sure this is authoritative, but seems plausible: https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/ https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/ It's not very well formatted, but you can skip about half-way down and look for text that seems like a list.

mannykannot 6y ago

If someone whom I regarded as a friend, or generally had a good opinion of, expressed that position, I would like them to explain to me what they regard as the significant differences between the two positions.

downerending 6y ago
Just picking a quote from the sibling link: We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable. I don't think this is entailed in the general idea of supporting black people and equal rights. There are plenty of other goals on that page that are similarly not obviously entailed.
- jkhdigital 6y ago
  I was reading this thread, and that exact paragraph from the BLM website popped into my mind right before you provided it as an example.
- mannykannot 6y ago
  OK - I was wondering if there was anything substantial here, but so far it just seems to be further examples of the overblown rhetoric that seems to be everywhere these days. Personally, I would doubt whether many of the people endorsing the position that black lives matter are even aware that an entity controlling this domain name is stating these positions, let alone that they concur with all of them.
jkhdigital 6y ago
May I seek rather to understand than to be understood says a well-known prayer. I believe the right thing to do is actively probe others’ opinions and points of view to make sure I understand them. If more people placed the burden of understanding on themselves and not the other then I suspect we would not be in this position right now.
- mannykannot 6y ago
  As for me, I believe the right thing to to is to not choke to death someone who is already beyond posing any sort of threat. If we had less of that then I suspect we would not be in this position right now.