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What are your sources for the claim that the hardware superiority actually matters in real life? Every once in a while when I'm looking to buy a phone, I like t

What are your sources for the claim that the hardware superiority actually matters in real life? Every once in a while when I'm looking to buy a phone, I like to check out videos that do real life speed tests (mainly opening apps but other tasks as well) and iPhones have never been on top. Curious to see if that has changed recently.

saagarjha 6y ago
> I like to check out videos that do real life speed tests (mainly opening apps but other tasks as well) Those "tests" almost invariably suck at measuring anything useful or being accurate.
- oehtXRwMkIs 6y ago
  They are certainly better than synthetic benchmarks however. If you know of anything better let us know.
acdha 6y ago
You're asking for sources and then citing unnamed “real life speed test” videos without any way for people to see what they're measuring or how solid their methodology was? The main area where normal people notice this is in web usage, where Mobile Safari has handily outpaced Android browsing for many years — see e.g. https://discuss.emberjs.com/t/why-was-ember-3x-5x-slower-on-android/6577 https://discuss.emberjs.com/t/why-was-ember-3x-5x-slower-on-... from 2014. How much that matters depends on how much a particular website is limited by single-core JavaScript performance — well-engineered sites probably don't have a huge impact but it's quite noticeable on anything which has a bloated SPA and the web has been moving in the latter direction for years. Gaming is the other area where this is fairly noticeable but that varies both in where the bottlenecks are (CPU vs. GPU), how prominent the effect is, and the relative quality of the ports so it's harder to do a fair comparison.
- oehtXRwMkIs 6y ago
  Burden of proof is on the one who makes the claim. I'm just asking for some links and I explained why I doubted the claim. I appreciate your effort with giving more background, although I think 2014 is a bit dated with Firefox Quantumn becoming more of a thing on Android. Can't remember if the Preview has it yet or not.

saagarjha 6y ago

> I like to check out videos that do real life speed tests (mainly opening apps but other tasks as well) Those "tests" almost invariably suck at measuring anything useful or being accurate.

oehtXRwMkIs 6y ago
They are certainly better than synthetic benchmarks however. If you know of anything better let us know.

acdha 6y ago

You're asking for sources and then citing unnamed “real life speed test” videos without any way for people to see what they're measuring or how solid their methodology was? The main area where normal people notice this is in web usage, where Mobile Safari has handily outpaced Android browsing for many years — see e.g. https://discuss.emberjs.com/t/why-was-ember-3x-5x-slower-on-android/6577 https://discuss.emberjs.com/t/why-was-ember-3x-5x-slower-on-... from 2014. How much that matters depends on how much a particular website is limited by single-core JavaScript performance — well-engineered sites probably don't have a huge impact but it's quite noticeable on anything which has a bloated SPA and the web has been moving in the latter direction for years. Gaming is the other area where this is fairly noticeable but that varies both in where the bottlenecks are (CPU vs. GPU), how prominent the effect is, and the relative quality of the ports so it's harder to do a fair comparison.

oehtXRwMkIs 6y ago
Burden of proof is on the one who makes the claim. I'm just asking for some links and I explained why I doubted the claim. I appreciate your effort with giving more background, although I think 2014 is a bit dated with Firefox Quantumn becoming more of a thing on Android. Can't remember if the Preview has it yet or not.