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Um, I'm not defending mysql_real_escape_string. I'm not sure how you got that from what I wrote. I was saying use PDO. Anyway, I don't care enough about what y

Um, I'm not defending mysql_real_escape_string. I'm not sure how you got that from what I wrote. I was saying use PDO. Anyway, I don't care enough about what you're going on about to spend the effort arguing with you - it seems like you just want to argue, so how about we say "you win" and move on.

DonHopkins 6y ago
I know you don't care, you've made that very clear. If you cared about truth or accuracy, you wouldn't have made an appeal to your own authority by bragging about impossibly using PHP and making database driven web sites for 39 years, or tried to excuse your moving the goalposts by claiming to "have a bad habit of not clicking on parent to see what the context of a post is". "I don't care" is Rasmus Lerdorf's attitude about security, software quality, programming, computer science, and unit tests, which is my point. mysql_real_escape_string is just a symptom that you're brushing aside and ignoring of the real problem you're in denial of, but guilty of yourself, which is systemic CARELESSNESS. "We have things like protected properties. We have abstract methods. We have all this stuff that your computer science teacher told you you should be using. I DON'T CARE about this crap at all." -Rasmus Lerdorf "I'm not a real programmer. I throw together things until it works then I move on. The real programmers will say Yeah it works but you're leaking memory everywhere. Perhaps we should fix that. I'll just restart Apache every 10 requests." -Rasmus Lerdorf "PHP is about as exciting as your toothbrush. You use it every day, it does the job, it is a simple tool, so what? Who would want to read about toothbrushes?" -Rasmus Lerdorf "I actually hate programming, but I love solving problems." -Rasmus Lerdorf "I don't know how to stop it, there was never any intent to write a programming language [...] I have absolutely no idea how to write a programming language, I just kept adding the next logical step on the way." -Rasmus Lerdorf "When the world becomes standard, I will start caring about standards." -Rasmus Lerdorf "I don't like programming. It's tedious." -Rasmus Lerdorf
- savethefuture 6y ago
  What are you getting out of this? He worked on php and look how far it came, what have you done? Your own website was written in php which you took down due to a security vulnerability in a framework... now is it php fault that someone wrote vulnerable code? "Temporarily offline due to Drupal security vulnerability."
  - DonHopkins 6y ago
    When did I blame php for Drupalgeddon? My web site says "Drupal security vulnerability", not "PHP security vulnerability", so I don't know where you're getting that from. Back to the point: We're discussing mysql_real_escape_string. What's your excuse for it even existing in the first place, instead of simply fixing the security hole in the original mysql not-so-real escape string function? Melania Trump's "I REALLY DON'T CARE DO U?" jacket sums up Rasmus Lerdorf's attitude towards security, software quality, programming, stardards, computer science, and unit tests. I just quoted his own words and bug reports that prove that point. Do you like to leave loaded AK47s strewn around daycare centers, then blame the kids when they shoot each other? Is it ok if after the massacre you realized you made a mistake, and then scatter a few Nerf Guns around so the smart experienced kids who survived will have something safe to play with, but you still leave all the loaded AK47s?
    - savethefuture 6y ago
      I asked what you did. Then asked if drupals security was phps fault. Are you seriously this butthurt about a function name, look up where the name came from originally. I also wonder what magical perfect language you use, dont tell me its php... Not sure where you're going with the rest of this comment so I wont entertain that part. whew...
  - oblio 6y ago
    Survivor bias. For Rasmus there were 10000 other developers which have been relegated to just annoying their fellow enterprise coders. It looks a lot more like someone there at the right place and the right time.

DonHopkins 6y ago

I know you don't care, you've made that very clear. If you cared about truth or accuracy, you wouldn't have made an appeal to your own authority by bragging about impossibly using PHP and making database driven web sites for 39 years, or tried to excuse your moving the goalposts by claiming to "have a bad habit of not clicking on parent to see what the context of a post is". "I don't care" is Rasmus Lerdorf's attitude about security, software quality, programming, computer science, and unit tests, which is my point. mysql_real_escape_string is just a symptom that you're brushing aside and ignoring of the real problem you're in denial of, but guilty of yourself, which is systemic CARELESSNESS. "We have things like protected properties. We have abstract methods. We have all this stuff that your computer science teacher told you you should be using. I DON'T CARE about this crap at all." -Rasmus Lerdorf "I'm not a real programmer. I throw together things until it works then I move on. The real programmers will say Yeah it works but you're leaking memory everywhere. Perhaps we should fix that. I'll just restart Apache every 10 requests." -Rasmus Lerdorf "PHP is about as exciting as your toothbrush. You use it every day, it does the job, it is a simple tool, so what? Who would want to read about toothbrushes?" -Rasmus Lerdorf "I actually hate programming, but I love solving problems." -Rasmus Lerdorf "I don't know how to stop it, there was never any intent to write a programming language [...] I have absolutely no idea how to write a programming language, I just kept adding the next logical step on the way." -Rasmus Lerdorf "When the world becomes standard, I will start caring about standards." -Rasmus Lerdorf "I don't like programming. It's tedious." -Rasmus Lerdorf

savethefuture 6y ago
What are you getting out of this? He worked on php and look how far it came, what have you done? Your own website was written in php which you took down due to a security vulnerability in a framework... now is it php fault that someone wrote vulnerable code? "Temporarily offline due to Drupal security vulnerability."
- DonHopkins 6y ago
  When did I blame php for Drupalgeddon? My web site says "Drupal security vulnerability", not "PHP security vulnerability", so I don't know where you're getting that from. Back to the point: We're discussing mysql_real_escape_string. What's your excuse for it even existing in the first place, instead of simply fixing the security hole in the original mysql not-so-real escape string function? Melania Trump's "I REALLY DON'T CARE DO U?" jacket sums up Rasmus Lerdorf's attitude towards security, software quality, programming, stardards, computer science, and unit tests. I just quoted his own words and bug reports that prove that point. Do you like to leave loaded AK47s strewn around daycare centers, then blame the kids when they shoot each other? Is it ok if after the massacre you realized you made a mistake, and then scatter a few Nerf Guns around so the smart experienced kids who survived will have something safe to play with, but you still leave all the loaded AK47s?
  - savethefuture 6y ago
    I asked what you did. Then asked if drupals security was phps fault. Are you seriously this butthurt about a function name, look up where the name came from originally. I also wonder what magical perfect language you use, dont tell me its php... Not sure where you're going with the rest of this comment so I wont entertain that part. whew...
- oblio 6y ago
  Survivor bias. For Rasmus there were 10000 other developers which have been relegated to just annoying their fellow enterprise coders. It looks a lot more like someone there at the right place and the right time.