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Small correction, it's "less lethal", not "less than lethal". Many of those crowd control devices are still very lethal. A protester had to be resucitated the o

Small correction, it's "less lethal", not "less than lethal". Many of those crowd control devices are still very lethal. A protester had to be resucitated the other day because a rubber bullet to the chest caused her heart to stop.

inetknght 6y ago
It wasn't a rubber bullet. It was a flashbang. Here's a graphic video of it. [0] There was also a Twitter from a field medic describing the woman's heart stopped repeatedly. I'll look if I can find it but, frankly, there's a lot of noise about protests. Edit: it was a Reddit thread, not a Twitter thread. [1] Also edit: there might have been other instances too. This is just what I remembered seeing the other day. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eA27bZl_8Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eA27bZl_8Y [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/gywxhz/folks_i_need_your_help/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/gywxhz/folks_i_nee...
ashtonkem 6y ago
A woman died in Ohio this week after exposure to teargas; her respiratory system stopped functioning despite not having asthma before. Officially the use of rubber batons (bullets in common parlance) in Northern Ireland killed 17 people; although one would be wise in doubting the veracity of English reports on English behavior in Northern Ireland. These tools are quite dangerous.
- SauciestGNU 6y ago
  >A woman died in Ohio this week after exposure to teargas This passive voice enrages me, it is more appropriate to say the police murdered a woman with tear gas. There were people with agency who actively made decisions which directly caused this woman's death.
  - ashtonkem 6y ago
    Yes, you’re right. That was a bad place for the passive voice.
    - SauciestGNU 6y ago
      I didn't mean to direct that rant at you specifically, I've just seen a lot of usage of the passive voice lately that serves to decouple police actions and their consequences.

inetknght 6y ago

It wasn't a rubber bullet. It was a flashbang. Here's a graphic video of it. [0] There was also a Twitter from a field medic describing the woman's heart stopped repeatedly. I'll look if I can find it but, frankly, there's a lot of noise about protests. Edit: it was a Reddit thread, not a Twitter thread. [1] Also edit: there might have been other instances too. This is just what I remembered seeing the other day. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eA27bZl_8Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eA27bZl_8Y [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/gywxhz/folks_i_need_your_help/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/gywxhz/folks_i_nee...

ashtonkem 6y ago

A woman died in Ohio this week after exposure to teargas; her respiratory system stopped functioning despite not having asthma before. Officially the use of rubber batons (bullets in common parlance) in Northern Ireland killed 17 people; although one would be wise in doubting the veracity of English reports on English behavior in Northern Ireland. These tools are quite dangerous.

SauciestGNU 6y ago
>A woman died in Ohio this week after exposure to teargas This passive voice enrages me, it is more appropriate to say the police murdered a woman with tear gas. There were people with agency who actively made decisions which directly caused this woman's death.
- ashtonkem 6y ago
  Yes, you’re right. That was a bad place for the passive voice.
  - SauciestGNU 6y ago
    I didn't mean to direct that rant at you specifically, I've just seen a lot of usage of the passive voice lately that serves to decouple police actions and their consequences.