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The dead pixel disclaimer bothers me too, but at this price point you really can't argue.

by jagger27 6y ago

fenwick67 6y ago
Even most middle-road laptops, monitors and phones have these disclaimers in the warranties AFAIK.
- michaelmrose 6y ago
  This amazes me. You could literally spend 2 grand on a machine and still be told its ok for it to be defective out of the box.
  - renewiltord 6y ago
    Well, if it's a high-res display then there's a lot more pixels so a greater chance of failure. I actually really like this system and wish that I could trade-off further down the spectrum on quality. After all, to get a zero-dead-pixel device you just have to check in the second-hand market like people do for high-binned CPUs. The volume of true demand for those CPUs is high enough that there are retailers like Silicon Lottery that explicitly look out for that. It turns out that most consumers don't really want a zero-dead-pixel guarantee though.
    - michaelmrose 6y ago
      >It turns out that most consumers don't really want a zero-dead-pixel guarantee though. Alternatively they just buy their displays from brick and mortar companies that allow you to return for any reason at all and just return for replacement any device that has any number of dead pixels. I've never bought a display that had any number of defective pixels in almost 3 decades of using computers I'm betting lots of people are in the same boat. Logically the price is built into whatever such places are selling them for based on some percentage of users returning anything with any number of dead pixels.
      - renewiltord 6y ago
        That's awesome. I'm glad you're able to get what you want there. That explains it. I'm all for this market segmentation happening.
    - exikyut 6y ago
      From https://siliconlottery.com/collections/cometlake/products/10700k51g https://siliconlottery.com/collections/cometlake/products/10...: > As of 6/7/20, the top 20% of tested 10700K fell within our 5.1GHz bin. Interesting!

The dead pixel disclaimer bothers me too, but at this price point you really can't argue.

fenwick67 6y ago

Even most middle-road laptops, monitors and phones have these disclaimers in the warranties AFAIK.

michaelmrose 6y ago
This amazes me. You could literally spend 2 grand on a machine and still be told its ok for it to be defective out of the box.
- renewiltord 6y ago
  Well, if it's a high-res display then there's a lot more pixels so a greater chance of failure. I actually really like this system and wish that I could trade-off further down the spectrum on quality. After all, to get a zero-dead-pixel device you just have to check in the second-hand market like people do for high-binned CPUs. The volume of true demand for those CPUs is high enough that there are retailers like Silicon Lottery that explicitly look out for that. It turns out that most consumers don't really want a zero-dead-pixel guarantee though.
  - michaelmrose 6y ago
    >It turns out that most consumers don't really want a zero-dead-pixel guarantee though. Alternatively they just buy their displays from brick and mortar companies that allow you to return for any reason at all and just return for replacement any device that has any number of dead pixels. I've never bought a display that had any number of defective pixels in almost 3 decades of using computers I'm betting lots of people are in the same boat. Logically the price is built into whatever such places are selling them for based on some percentage of users returning anything with any number of dead pixels.
    - renewiltord 6y ago
      That's awesome. I'm glad you're able to get what you want there. That explains it. I'm all for this market segmentation happening.
  - exikyut 6y ago
    From https://siliconlottery.com/collections/cometlake/products/10700k51g https://siliconlottery.com/collections/cometlake/products/10...: > As of 6/7/20, the top 20% of tested 10700K fell within our 5.1GHz bin. Interesting!