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Schoolteachers (in the USA, anyway) get paid next to nothing, and frequently have to buy classroom supplies out of pocket because their school system doesn't ha

Schoolteachers (in the USA, anyway) get paid next to nothing, and frequently have to buy classroom supplies out of pocket because their school system doesn't have the budget to buy them. Nobody becomes a schoolteacher to get rich.

mc32 6y ago
They didn’t say get rich but rather it suggests “to get a paycheck.“ People do whatever they can for a paycheck —some do it out of altruism, sure, but some do it because it’s what they can do.
MintelIE 6y ago
As the amount of administration support staff and special needs paraprofessionals skyrocketed, the resources allocated to regular students and teachers have dwindled. People feel good about having students with special needs included in regular classes but it has caused an enormous reallocation of resources, shifting massive cash and attention to the lowest performing students. There was a book about this once, Harrison Bergeron.
- sharkmerry 6y ago
  Is it entirely due to re-allocation to special needs education? Seems like with population growth, we are trying to educate more and more kids, and unlike in the past, we dont just discard that parts that would be expensive or difficult. In the past, we ignored the problem so it wasnt factored into budgets, head counts. There needs to be more money overall for education. It returns more than $1 for every $1 invested over the long term.
  - MintelIE 6y ago
    It varies by district but my wife is a teacher (now) and she has worked in several schools where the special education budget met or exceeded the non-special, while serving only 3-5% of the school's enrolled children.
    - sharkmerry 6y ago
      I understand that. but what is the suggested alternative? These students simply cost more to educate, is that the students fault though? Leave them behind and underfunded like in the past? Lock them up?
      - thejynxed 6y ago
        My wife also teaches these sorts of children and the vast majority of them seldom improve beyond a 5th or 6th grade level, and many of the "smarter" ones with milder disabilities end up in jail at some point after being graduated (most typically for sexual, theft, violence, and drug offenses) out of the system since they can no longer be failed, yet they basically can't truly be taught how to properly function in society since they can't even properly comprehend laws or how they work, as they only have basic reading capability and comprehension of even simple children's books. Closing institutions insteading of reforming and modernizing them for these sorts of people was indeed a mistake.

mc32 6y ago

They didn’t say get rich but rather it suggests “to get a paycheck.“ People do whatever they can for a paycheck —some do it out of altruism, sure, but some do it because it’s what they can do.

MintelIE 6y ago

As the amount of administration support staff and special needs paraprofessionals skyrocketed, the resources allocated to regular students and teachers have dwindled. People feel good about having students with special needs included in regular classes but it has caused an enormous reallocation of resources, shifting massive cash and attention to the lowest performing students. There was a book about this once, Harrison Bergeron.

sharkmerry 6y ago
Is it entirely due to re-allocation to special needs education? Seems like with population growth, we are trying to educate more and more kids, and unlike in the past, we dont just discard that parts that would be expensive or difficult. In the past, we ignored the problem so it wasnt factored into budgets, head counts. There needs to be more money overall for education. It returns more than $1 for every $1 invested over the long term.
- MintelIE 6y ago
  It varies by district but my wife is a teacher (now) and she has worked in several schools where the special education budget met or exceeded the non-special, while serving only 3-5% of the school's enrolled children.
  - sharkmerry 6y ago
    I understand that. but what is the suggested alternative? These students simply cost more to educate, is that the students fault though? Leave them behind and underfunded like in the past? Lock them up?
    - thejynxed 6y ago
      My wife also teaches these sorts of children and the vast majority of them seldom improve beyond a 5th or 6th grade level, and many of the "smarter" ones with milder disabilities end up in jail at some point after being graduated (most typically for sexual, theft, violence, and drug offenses) out of the system since they can no longer be failed, yet they basically can't truly be taught how to properly function in society since they can't even properly comprehend laws or how they work, as they only have basic reading capability and comprehension of even simple children's books. Closing institutions insteading of reforming and modernizing them for these sorts of people was indeed a mistake.