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The Wikimedia Foundation is not underfunded at all. What does worry me is that less page views may mean less engagement in the form of checking sources, flaggi
by boogies 6y ago
The Wikimedia Foundation is not underfunded at all.
What does worry me is that less page views may mean less engagement in the form of checking sources, flagging problems, and making edits.
- KorfmannArno 6y agoThere must be a bigger movement around contributing to Wikipedia, including financial rewards.
- thomasahle 6y agoI'm pretty sure financial incentives are the exact opposite of what Wikipedia needs.
- boogies 6y agoAddendum: their revenue was actually following an upward trend as of their last report: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising/2018-19_Report#Key_Stats https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising/2018-19_Report#K... But the number of new registered users and the number of user edits are both decreasing: https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/all-projects https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/all-projects
- jeffbee 6y agoServing pages to logged-in users is very costly to Wikimedia. Edits are even more costly.
- boogies 6y agoWhat I'm trying to communicate is that Wikimedia has challenges, possibly exacerbated by Google's behaviour, but the challenges are not money. Wikimedia is not a for-profit corporation, it's a non-profit with a mission to collect and distribute knowledge. Google distributes pieces of that knowledge, but does not contribute to the collection of new knowledge.¹ Wikimedia has all the money it needs, and is getting more money from more people all the time. It does not have all the contributions it needs in the form of new knowledge, and by many measures the new knowledge it gets is decreasing. tl;dr The monetary cost does not really matter 1. It does contribute money, which Wikimedia does not need.
- bzb3 6y agoCouldn't it be said Wikipedia is basically complete? Which would explain the declining number of edits
- exolymph 6y ago> Couldn't it be said Wikipedia is basically complete? No.
- saagarjha 6y agoA comprehensive encyclopedia is never complete.
- drusepth 6y agoNever is a very, very long time. At some point in an encyclopedia's lifetime, it's "complete enough" that you'll see an excess of authors. "Compiling the world's information" and, past that, "compiling current events as they happen" (with a side of "occasionally improving/updating old articles") need very different numbers of authors.
- notatoad 6y agothe decreasing number of edits likely has more to do with the obnoxious edit policies and power users who will stamp down on any new users trying to edit, rather than a few less pageviews directed from google search results.
- renewiltord 6y agoI'm pretty confident only a small fraction of people edit anyway and those who would only need a few encounters to start becoming editors. This is based off the fact that I frequently see: - "why does X not have a Wikipedia article?" - "this Wikipedia article is so poorly written" And very rarely actually see someone edit it. On occasion thousands of people have agreed and hundreds of people have written comments agreeing and only two people edited. So maybe it does some damage at the margin but overall probably doesn't hurt that much.