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Wow, there's so much... negativity in this post by Rogozin. It reads like "sour grapes": " Driven by hunger, a fox tried to reach some grapes hanging high on t

by cs702 6y ago

Wow, there's so much... negativity in this post by Rogozin. It reads like "sour grapes": " Driven by hunger, a fox tried to reach some grapes hanging high on the vine but was unable to, although it leaped with all its strength. As it went away, the fox remarked 'Oh, you aren't even ripe yet! I don't need any sour grapes.'"[a] People who speak disparagingly of the accomplishments of others would do well to apply this story to themselves. -- [a] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes

johnzim 6y ago
Thanks for providing that! I had no idea about the roots of that expression.
fastball 6y ago
Is that surprising? Russia and America don't exactly get along, and I can't remember the last time I read anything where Russians employed by the state had something nice to say about the US.
- Nginx487 6y ago
  I would say, for many state-employed Russians saying terrible things about the US is a primary responsibility, especially in a Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
mc32 6y ago
It sounds like he’s pissed that he’s losing revenue which will affect budget which will affect future development and future competitiveness. I doubt he didn’t see it coming, and sees competition where he had a monopoly for some years and naturally is upset by it. But airing it out in an unprofessional way...
starpilot 6y ago
That's how we know SpaceX is doing a good job competing. Seriously, more than the ESA, and more than Boeing, Russia is SpaceX's strongest competitor. If Rogozin was unruffled and apathetic I'd be wondering if they knew something that SpaceX didn't. The fact that he's upset means that he considers them to be a fully-developed player in the space launch market.
- jandrese 6y ago
  With SpaceX delivering astronauts to the ISS this year, Rogozin lost the last mission type where it was a monopoly. If anybody had hopes that the taxi service would keep them alive even as SpaceX undercut them on delivering mass to orbit those hopes were dashed.

by cs702 6y ago

johnzim 6y ago

Thanks for providing that! I had no idea about the roots of that expression.

fastball 6y ago

Is that surprising? Russia and America don't exactly get along, and I can't remember the last time I read anything where Russians employed by the state had something nice to say about the US.

Nginx487 6y ago
I would say, for many state-employed Russians saying terrible things about the US is a primary responsibility, especially in a Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

mc32 6y ago

It sounds like he’s pissed that he’s losing revenue which will affect budget which will affect future development and future competitiveness. I doubt he didn’t see it coming, and sees competition where he had a monopoly for some years and naturally is upset by it. But airing it out in an unprofessional way...

starpilot 6y ago

That's how we know SpaceX is doing a good job competing. Seriously, more than the ESA, and more than Boeing, Russia is SpaceX's strongest competitor. If Rogozin was unruffled and apathetic I'd be wondering if they knew something that SpaceX didn't. The fact that he's upset means that he considers them to be a fully-developed player in the space launch market.

jandrese 6y ago
With SpaceX delivering astronauts to the ISS this year, Rogozin lost the last mission type where it was a monopoly. If anybody had hopes that the taxi service would keep them alive even as SpaceX undercut them on delivering mass to orbit those hopes were dashed.